Winter fuel payment

[Boomer54]

24 minutes ago, Lmafudd said:

But to 'Qualify' you can't write a cheque for your Bar Bill!

Damn right, payment by shrapnel.

Hoho, bar bill implies you got to pay later. Not in the pubs I used to frequent.

[Boomer54]

5 hours ago, Kevin Williams said:

A 7 minute video done by Daniel ShenSmith a practising barrister...

 

What comes to mind is semantics. In a very literal sense the increase in employers NI does not break the manifesto pledge. In strict economic terms the opposite is true. It is that form of politics that we have come to abhor. How to lie without lying. This won't end well. 

[GMB]

Politicians like to give the idea that they are telling the truth and they don't even get close to that simple obligation. But what they forget is that there is the truth AND the whole truth AND nothing but the truth. There's the rub.

[Boomer54]

6 minutes ago, GMB said:

Politicians like to give the idea that they are telling the truth and they don't even get close to that simple obligation. But what they forget is that there is the truth AND the whole truth AND nothing but the truth. There's the rub.

Perry Mason lives on!

[LenT]

On 10/26/2024 at 9:11 PM, Malc1 said:

Buck House …….. remembering in a past career,  new business mode I and my business partner, we reviewed the heating boilers both there and at Windsor Castle ……

I meant to ask, Malcolm, whether this resulted - in recognition of your services - in the award of an OBE?*

 

* One’s Boiler Expert

[Malc1]

23 minutes ago, LenT said:

I meant to ask, Malcolm, whether this resulted - in recognition of your services - in the award of an OBE?*

 

* One’s Boiler Expert

and similarly at that time we also dealt with the ginormous boilers for the RAF/USAF at Lakenheath .......... an incredible minor insight into the wherewithal of the US Forces in the UK 😉

 

Malc

 

NOW then

 

the      AGE  UK   Petition 

WINTER FUEL ALLOWANCE

 

561,484   Signatures   .....  it's slowing down sadly

 

[Phil xxkr]

10 hours ago, GMB said:

Politicians like to give the idea that they are telling the truth and they don't even get close to that simple obligation. But what they forget is that there is the truth AND the whole truth AND nothing but the truth. There's the rub.

Well if you read Democritus Gray, the ancient Greek philosopher he states "in the world there are only atoms and the void, everything else is opinion". So if you look at politicians statements they are just that, opinions. Not expressions of truth nor promises nor honesty but just their opinion. It should come as no surprise then we can't agree with their opinions. 😎

[Phil xxkr]

8 minutes ago, Malc1 said:

and similarly at that time we also dealt with the ginormous boilers for the RAF/USAF at Lakenheath .......... an incredible minor insight into the wherewithal of the US Forces in the UK 😉

 

Malc

 

NOW then

 

the      AGE  UK   Petition 

WINTER FUEL ALLOWANCE

 

561,484   Signatures   .....  it's slowing down sadly

 

Too much information Malc, wait for the knock on the door 😱

[Malc1]

2 minutes ago, Phil xxkr said:

Too much information Malc, wait for the knock on the door 😱

it's ok. I gave them your address  😂🤣

Malc

[Boomer54]

53 minutes ago, LenT said:

I meant to ask, Malcolm, whether this resulted - in recognition of your services - in the award of an OBE?*

 

* One’s Boiler Expert

More like Old Buggers Exhausted Award.

[Boomer54]

19 minutes ago, Phil xxkr said:

Well if you read Democritus Gray, the ancient Greek philosopher he states "in the world there are only atoms and the void, everything else is opinion". So if you look at politicians statements they are just that, opinions. Not expressions of truth nor promises nor honesty but just their opinion. It should come as no surprise then we can't agree with their opinions. 😎

Brings to mind the uncouth observation that opinions are like asrholes. Everybody's got one.

[Phil xxkr]

44 minutes ago, Malc1 said:

it's ok. I gave them your address  😂🤣

Malc

They already have it 😅

[Malc1]

1 hour ago, Boomer54 said:

Brings to mind the uncouth observation that opinions are like asrholes. Everybody's got one.

BUT WE HAVE A CABINET FULL   🙃

Malc

[fourbanks]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-mXb2HYoR50?feature=share

keir starmer halloween special - Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein

 

 

[GMB]

What's the most frightening horror film you've ever seen? Starmer is on TV now and he has just scared me to death!

[Phil xxkr]

13 minutes ago, GMB said:

What's the most frightening horror film you've ever seen? Starmer is on TV now and he has just scared me to death!

I've had to turn it off, still in campaign mode. Still claiming credit for investments that have been in negotiations way before they were elected. And claiming credit for the OAP rise of £920 of April 2024 in "pensioners are better off under labour. 😱

[John Adams]

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[GMB]

16 minutes ago, Phil xxkr said:

I've had to turn it off, still in campaign mode. Still claiming credit for investments that have been in negotiations way before they were elected. And claiming credit for the OAP rise of £920 of April 2024 in "pensioners are better off under labour. 😱

Yes, if it wasn't so tragically wrong it would be funny.  Do they really think we are all so stupid?

[GMB]

So we had an info leak from our leader this lunchtime, a very minor hit ( God knows what other punishment they have in mind for us ).  Bus fare cap will be £3 instead of £2.. Sounds like nothing until you work it out.

Chap goes to work 5 days a week = £2 per day extra =£10= £500 per year of cost of working after tax. If he pays tax at 20%  it is a hit of around £620 from his gross pay. Lets say he earns £28000 per year as a modest income nowadays. This equates to over 2% rise in tax  ( very approximate figures ).

AND this is only one of the tiniest hits that we will be subjected to.  Prepare to get battered.

BTW If he is fortunate enough to have a car OMG it's gonna be a lot worse for him poor chap.

BTW 2 - Could we use these redundant rubber dinghys on the beaches in Sussex to get out of the UK?

[Phil xxkr]

49 minutes ago, GMB said:

Yes, if it wasn't so tragically wrong it would be funny.  Do they really think we are all so stupid?

It used to be simple. Labour have always thought they can spend your money better than you can. But it's moved on from there, they now think they can use up your entire life better than you can, so what you think is irrelevant if it doesn't conform to the collectivism ideal😕

[GMB]

Just now, Phil xxkr said:

so what you think is irrelevant if it doesn't conform to the collectivism ideal😕

Reminds me of Star trek and the Borgs. The one on the left may be Keir?

You WILL be assimilated ! And your bus pass value will be reduced and given to the Collective.

[Phil xxkr]

2 minutes ago, GMB said:

So we had an info leak from our leader this lunchtime, a very minor hit ( God knows what other punishment they have in mind for us ).  Bus fare cap will be £3 instead of £2.. Sounds like nothing until you work it out.

Chap goes to work 5 days a week = £2 per day extra =£10= £500 per year of cost of working after tax. If he pays tax at 20%  it is a hit of around £620 from his gross pay. Lets say he earns £28000 per year as a modest income nowadays. This equates to over 2% rise in tax  ( very approximate figures ).

AND this is only one of the tiniest hits that we will be subjected to.  Prepare to get battered.

BTW If he is fortunate enough to have a car OMG it's gonna be a lot worse for him poor chap.

BTW 2 - Could we use these redundant rubber dinghys on the beaches in Sussex to get out of the UK?

Great maths but not if you are a shirking from home, 2 day a week Civil Servant 🤗 you won't notice the difference after your pay rise and concessionary travel. 

[Phil xxkr]

2 minutes ago, GMB said:

Reminds me of Star trek and the Borgs. The one on the left may be Keir?

You WILL be assimilated ! And your bus pass value will be reduced and given to the Collective.

Can't be keir, there's no teleprompter or notes in sight 😅

[Boomer54]

10 minutes ago, Phil xxkr said:

It used to be simple. Labour have always thought they can spend your money better than you can. But it's moved on from there, they now think they can use up your entire life better than you can, so what you think is irrelevant if it doesn't conform to the collectivism ideal😕

It could even be that they don't even think the money they are spending IS YOURS. Probably more convenient if it has always been theirs to spend and you are, but a conduit through which it flows to them.

[GMB]

1 minute ago, Boomer54 said:

It could even be that they don't even think the money they are spending IS YOURS. Probably more convenient if it has always been theirs to spend and you are, but a conduit through which it flows to them.

Oooh that's got me thinking. Verrry deep! But now my head is hurting. I wonder if they will make us all pay for prescriptions - they have already banned painkillers.  Aaargh it's getting worse - SPLAT🤯