Winter fuel payment

fourbanks · September 10

14 hours ago, LenT said:

It might be worth reminding your MP that when he comes up for reelection, how he voted will come under scrutiny.

In 2017 Labour’s own review of the then Tory Government’s proposal to cut the WFA argued that it could result in the deaths of nearly 4000 pensioners.

If they were right then - and turn out to be right again - telling his constituents to ‘get over’ the cold-related deaths of their pensioner relatives will not have been a good career move!

Like I told you, Len, all he says is that the issue is now resolved in the commons because everyone voted for change, thus that's what you have. The next subject, he states

First_Lexus · September 10

Well worth a watch to hear the views of two seasoned political campaigners, although I imagine Ed Balls has some fascinating discussions with wife Yvette Cooper 😂

Phil xxkr · September 10

3 hours ago, GMB said:

I don't think it matters now. Am I imagining it ( or the newspapers manipulating the images ) or can you see the "ashamed of himself" guilty look on Keir Starmers face? Meanwhile that other villain Reeves has a big grin. I would not be so proud if I had condemned hundreds of poor old folk to a miserable cold hungry winter or an early grave. How very sad.

I think the only thing decent people can do now is to look out for any frail old folk who may be struggling this winter. I wonder if there are any charitable organisations ( honest ones! ) that are helping them.

Dr Caroline Johnson was impressive tonight

Phil xxkr · September 10

3 hours ago, Malc1 said:

I did say about a month back here for us all to look out for our neighbours this coming winter ……. just take a little time to see what’s going on for them ……. making sure all looks ok …….. as best we can

There will be for sure a few 000s OAPs who will die from cold and hunger this winter …… and all as a result of this draconian Govt evil action

Malc

Well said Malc

Malc1 · September 10

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WINTER FUEL PAYMENT

Malc

The-Acre · September 10

But fear not, there is money in the government coffers after all, they've announced that they will support (not pensioners )Ukraine until 2030. So although many elderly people will be very concerned about keeping themselves warm this winter, they can have their hearts warmed with the good news that the money they were expecting will go to a better cause, the West's proxy war with Russia!

Malc1 · September 10

I’m thinking the financial support to Ukraine could be in the form of UK produced assets …….. tanks, drones, boats and ships, planes, troop training whatever ……. providing UK employment and economic well-being for maybe impoverished areas of the UK …… or am I doing a little wishful thinking 🤔

Malc

508,108. Signatures now

The-Acre · September 10

48 minutes ago, Malc1 said:

I’m thinking the financial support to Ukraine could be in the form of UK produced assets …….. tanks, drones, boats and ships, planes, troop training whatever ……. providing UK employment and economic well-being for maybe impoverished areas of the UK …… or am I doing a little wishful thinking 🤔

Malc

508,108. Signatures now

It might be wishful thinking. I'm surprised the government hasn't come up with a plan to put UK pensioners boots on the ground in Ukraine, problem solved, and I'd be one of them!

Boomer54 · September 10

55 minutes ago, Malc1 said:

I’m thinking the financial support to Ukraine could be in the form of UK produced assets …….. tanks, drones, boats and ships, planes, troop training whatever ……. providing UK employment and economic well-being for maybe impoverished areas of the UK …… or am I doing a little wishful thinking 🤔

Malc

508,108. Signatures now

That aligns well with UK economic policy. For example, you want to keep employment levels down particularly in the 16 to 24 Yr group just expand higher education. Students fall out of those numbers. Mind you eventually you want build stuff and you don't have enough trades 'cos they are all learning how to be rounded (sic) individuals at Uni.

Boomer54 · September 10

3 minutes ago, The-Acre said:

It might be wishful thinking. I'm surprised the government hasn't come up with a plan to put UK pensioners boots on the ground in Ukraine, problem solved, and I'd be one of them!

Well my boots can be there as long as I am not wearing them at the time.

Malc1 · September 10

50 minutes ago, Boomer54 said:

Well my boots can be there as long as I am not wearing them at the time.

You’ll be the Old Cobbler …….. that’s a dying art I bet 🤔

Malc

steve2006 · September 11

After the vote earlier in the commons I have just emailed my new labour mp to ask how she voted.

Reply not expected.

You may have noticed my grammar is not up to its usual standard regarding capital letters when it comes to certain government words due to my current lack of respect for the establishment.

Boomer54 · September 11

At least one issue has been cleared up and it really is 'pure' politics. I want to 'kill' the triple lock pension, but I said I won't so just how do I do that without lying?. That's right, you keep it then chop it in half by axing the WFA. Clever hey?

John Adams · September 11

Good news!!!

According to my MP it looks as though they are going to let us keep the £10 Christmas bonus. All we have to do know is decide what to spend it on. Difficult decision.

The-Acre · September 11

6 minutes ago, John Adams said:

Good news!!!

According to my MP it looks as though they are going to let us keep the £10 Christmas bonus. All we have to do know is decide what to spend it on. Difficult decision.

Two nets of logs for my wood burner, warmth for three nights, what a benevolent government!

Malc1 · September 11

Starmer and Reeves have yet to feel the full force of the TUC and the probable upcoming Winter of Discontent …….. we citizens too I’m thinking

NOW THEN where’s the

IMPACT STATEMENT

the Govt has told they’re holding back on until after yesterday’s vote in the House ??
This will be interesting to understand

I hope someone presses for it soon

Malc
……. saddened and in despair that several 000s of OAPs will, because of this terrible action by this Labour Govt die prematurely this winter

SHAME ON YOU STARMER and REEVES

SHAME ON ALL YOU LABOUR MPs

bar those brave very few who voted agin

We will never forget !

Malc

Phil xxkr · September 11

14 hours ago, Boomer54 said:

Perhaps we should publish a list of MP's homes where OAP's can go keep warm this winter.

Do you mean when empty and still heated?

GMB · September 11

10 hours ago, The-Acre said:

It might be wishful thinking. I'm surprised the government hasn't come up with a plan to put UK pensioners boots on the ground in Ukraine, problem solved, and I'd be one of them!

That's a good idea. The logistics don't quite add up. They would have to make their own way to Ukraine war zones due to lack of Gov't cash but once there they would be kept warm from the incendiary bombs falling all around them. I would certainly sign up for going because once I have been blown to bits the Gov't would not be able to rob me anymore. Nurse get me meds QUICK!

Malc1 · September 11

Govt IMPACT STATEMENT

I was aware from somewhere that this was being held back until after the MPs vote yesterday in the House

So then, how do we press and who, to see it and simply, its IMPACT on the OAPs this winter ?

Malc

508,747 Signatures thus far

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WINTER FUEL ALLOWANCE

Phil xxkr · September 11

33 minutes ago, Malc1 said:

Govt IMPACT STATEMENT

I was aware from somewhere that this was being held back until after the MPs vote yesterday in the House

So then, how do we press and who, to see it and simply, its IMPACT on the OAPs this winter ?

Malc

508,747 Signatures thus far

AGE UK Petition

WINTER FUEL ALLOWANCE

I've dropped a line to Lee Anderson Reform party he was spitting feathers on interview yesterday 👍

Phil xxkr · September 11

2 hours ago, John Adams said:

Good news!!!

According to my MP it looks as though they are going to let us keep the £10 Christmas bonus. All we have to do know is decide what to spend it on. Difficult decision.

Stamps for letters to your MP telling them what you spent it on!

Phil xxkr · September 11

11 hours ago, The-Acre said:

It might be wishful thinking. I'm surprised the government hasn't come up with a plan to put UK pensioners boots on the ground in Ukraine, problem solved, and I'd be one of them!

But there is a plan Phil. That is to completely airbrush you out as a group. York uni wants to omit the words OAP, pensioners, elderly etc. Thereby removing any emotional attachment to the term. Thereafter you can be seen as just another consumer of resources of the State. Welcome to the Brave New World of Aldous Huxley👏

steve2006 · September 11

34 minutes ago, Phil xxkr said:

Stamps for letters to your MP telling them what you spent it on!

They’re going up 40p for 1st class soon be cheaper to deliver letters in my 4.3 V8.

Second class just like the government are not increasing.

steve2006 · September 11

If you would like to check how your local mp voted click on the link below.

https://votes.parliament.uk/votes/commons/division/1841?byMember=True

The-Acre · September 11

38 minutes ago, Phil xxkr said:

But there is a plan Phil. That is to completely airbrush you out as a group. York uni wants to omit the words OAP, pensioners, elderly etc. Thereby removing any emotional attachment to the term. Thereafter you can be seen as just another consumer of resources of the State. Welcome to the Brave New World of Aldous Huxley👏

For sure, just look at the regular use of Midazolam for elderly patients in care homes and hospitals!