Winter fuel payment

[Malc1]

4 hours ago, Malc1 said:

485,022.  Signatures to date 

 

Malc 

486,417   signatures thus far 

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AND I've just recd an email from       AGE  UK  Petition        people suggesting one might wish one's contacts to also sign this Petition 

So everyone, if you wish, get everyone on board to sign 

 

Malc

[Phil xxkr]

33 minutes ago, Malc1 said:

486,417   signatures thus far 

WINTER FUEL PAYMENT   ....  Petition

AND I've just recd an email from       AGE  UK  Petition        people suggesting one might wish one's contacts to also sign this Petition 

So everyone, if you wish, get everyone on board to sign 

 

Malc

 

At the risk of repetition of an earlier post😅

"Bear in mind over 65s aren't just a single entity, they have family and friends with the message if they can do this to us in such a cold-hearted way what can do to you? Even if just 50% of pensioners can influence just 3 people? Let your MP do the mathematics."

[Phil xxkr]

On 9/2/2024 at 6:49 PM, First_Lexus said:

It’s quite complex legislation, some of which through precedent applies only to the ‘character’ of a candidate (as I understand it), but there’s a very obvious reason why the oft parroted “£22bn black hole” is a ‘surprise’ to Labour after the election campaign…

Our local council leader wrote to our new Labour MP about ‘cast iron’ commitments she made during the campaign, and which were on her website (but which disappeared the day after the election - God bless the internet Time Machine 😂). Essentially he was pointing out that she may have committed an offence if ‘she was aware’ of post-election policy that contradicted her commitments during the campaign if she implied other candidates wouldn’t support or champion those causes, 

The Representation of the People Act

Section 106(1) of the Representation of the People Act 1983 (the “RPA”), provides that:

“A person who, or any director of any body or association corporate which—

(a) before or during an election,

(b) for the purpose of affecting the return of any candidate at the election,
makes or publishes any false statement of fact in relation to the candidate’s personal character or conduct shall be guilty of an illegal practice, unless he can show that he had reasonable grounds for believing, and did believe, that statement to be true.”

A person convicted of an illegal practice under the RPA is liable to an unlimited fine. Subsection (3) gives the court power to grant an injunction to prevent any repetition of the statement.

Where a petition is brought to an Election Court under the RPA, and a candidate who has been elected is found by the Election Court to have been guilty of an illegal practice, then pursuant to section 159(1) of the PRA, the election is void.  

The ingredients for an illegal practice are that: 

(a) a person makes or publishes a statement;

(b) the statement relates to a candidate;

(c) it must be a statement of fact;

(d) the statement must be false;

(e) the statement is made in relation to a candidate’s personal character or conduct;

(f) the statement is made for the purpose of affecting the election of the candidate; and

(g) the statement is made before or during an election.

Wonderful contribution Ed! Do all Council members get this? Cheers Phil 

[Malc1]

Govt and their MPs …… Slap ‘ em in irons ……. chain ‘ em to the railings at Westminster ……. flog ‘em, tar and feather and tip toe dance over their …….. but only the Labour anti OAP brigade …… the rest are probably all ok ……, well for the moment anyway 🤣😂👏👍

They're Labour politicians and for the most part anti-social beings that hate their OAP Constituents vehemently by wanting to bring premature death thru’ cold and hunger this winter 

Turn off the heating in the House this winter, serve ‘em watery cold tea and no bikkies 👍……. I could go on but I’ll stop here 

I’ve  never been so anti politics and certainly had some empathy with Labour …… but they’ve gone too far in their Anti Social Socialism and Winter Death Wish on OAPs  

 

487,246   Signatures now 

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Malc 

 

[Phil xxkr]

3 hours ago, Malc1 said:

Govt and their MPs …… Slap ‘ em in irons ……. chain ‘ em to the railings at Westminster ……. flog ‘em, tar and feather and tip toe dance over their …….. but only the Labour anti OAP brigade …… the rest are probably all ok ……, well for the moment anyway 🤣😂👏👍

They're Labour politicians and for the most part anti-social beings that hate their OAP Constituents vehemently by wanting to bring premature death thru’ cold and hunger this winter 

Turn off the heating in the House this winter, serve ‘em watery cold tea and no bikkies 👍……. I could go on but I’ll stop here 

I’ve  never been so anti politics and certainly had some empathy with Labour …… but they’ve gone too far in their Anti Social Socialism and Winter Death Wish on OAPs  

 

487,246   Signatures now 

AGE  UK    Petition 

WINTER FUEL PAYMENT 

 

Malc 

 

Just came across this Malc thought you may like? 

The amount the government has to spend on state pensions will fall by £1.5bn by 2022, partly because of over-65s dying of Covid, forecasts suggest.

The government will also receive an extra £0.9bn from inheritance tax, partly due to Covid-related deaths.

The figures have been published by the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) - the government's fiscal watchdog.

It said it had "revised up our assumption for excess deaths this year and next relative to November".

More than 144,000 deaths involving Covid-19 have occurred in the UK since the start of the pandemic, figures published by the UK's statistics agencies show.

The majority of coronavirus deaths have been among people aged over 65, many of whom will have been receiving the state pension.

The OBR estimates spending on the state pension will fall by £600m in 2020-21 and £900m in 2021-22 compared with forecasts made before the pandemic.

[fourbanks]

The local conservative mp's are sending out emails to all on their database, so keep an eye for this with regards the winter fuel allowance 

[Malc1]

5 hours ago, Malc1 said:

Govt and their MPs …… Slap ‘ em in irons ……. chain ‘ em to the railings at Westminster ……. flog ‘em, tar and feather and tip toe dance over their …….. but only the Labour anti OAP brigade …… the rest are probably all ok ……, well for the moment anyway 🤣😂👏👍

They're Labour politicians and for the most part anti-social beings that hate their OAP Constituents vehemently by wanting to bring premature death thru’ cold and hunger this winter 

Turn off the heating in the House this winter, serve ‘em watery cold tea and no bikkies 👍……. I could go on but I’ll stop here 

I’ve  never been so anti politics and certainly had some empathy with Labour …… but they’ve gone too far in their Anti Social Socialism and Winter Death Wish on OAPs  

 

487,246   Signatures now 

AGE  UK    Petition 

WINTER FUEL PAYMENT 

 

Malc 

 

489,010.    Signatures now 

AGE. UK.    Petition 

 

WINTER FUEL PAYMENT 

 

Malc 

[Kevin Williams]

[rafarules]

[Malc1]

11 hours ago, Malc1 said:

489,010.    Signatures now 

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Malc 

490,014.     Signatures now 

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Malc  

[Boomer54]

20 minutes ago, Malc1 said:

490,014.     Signatures now 

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Malc  

Ok I am starting on the Z'z today. And here we go;

Mr Zut Alors

-20 Sth Pole Road

Forgotten

UK

[Malc1]

16 minutes ago, Boomer54 said:

Ok I am starting on the Z'z today. And here we go;

Mr Zut Alors

-20 Sth Pole Road

Forgotten

UK

Invalid address.  No PostCode  failure I’m afraid 🥵🤣

anyway you missed Zebedee Alouicious …….. he’s living with Larry at no.10 with the ingrates behind bars, those railings  ……. Larry’s putting in an application about overcrowding  🥵

Malc 

[LenT]

 

41 minutes ago, Malc1 said:

he’s living with Larry at no.10 with the ingrates behind bars, those railings  ……. Larry’s putting in an application about overcrowding  🥵

Speaking of Larry, here’s an extract from an article today marking Larry’s tenure at No.10…..

Larry, whose full honorary title is Chief Mouser to the Cabinet Office, is held in higher regard than either Sir Keir or his predecessor Mr Sunak, an Ipsos poll found last week.

The survey showed 44 per cent of people have a favourable opinion of Larry, while just four per cent take an unfavourable view.

This makes him significantly more popular than the new Prime Minister, who is seen favourably by 34 per cent and unfavourably by 41 per cent.

[Kevin Williams]

This one shouldn't get deleted...!

[RONNIE W HODGEKINSON]

On 8/1/2024 at 8:49 AM, GMB said:

If you're lucky.  Apparently there is more pain to come allegedly. They think most pensioners are rich and can take the hit. How wrong they are.  Means testing here we come.  Look out pensioners and motorists pain is on the way. If you saved for a private pension and a nice home then you are a target. I am trying to think of something cheerful to say to avoid being called a whinger but I honestly can't think of anything - sorry!😬

It Could be They will be Forced To Backtrack On This..Public Opinion Being What is is..!!! But if They do They will Take Money from Some other Department...IMHO

[RONNIE W HODGEKINSON]

7 hours ago, Kevin Williams said:

Exactly..!!!! I Think They will be forced to Backtrack On The WFA ( The Power Of The People ) !!!!

[Phil xxkr]

12 minutes ago, RONNIE W HODGEKINSON said:

Exactly..!!!! I Think They will be forced to Backtrack On The WFA ( The Power Of The People ) !!!!

Dream on Ron. Reeves&Rayner have form in wanting this. I didn't know until recently that the formers husband is a £170k a year civil servant 🤯. Do you think they'll need £200 when they retire? What will be interesting is to see next week how many Labour MP's will be whipped to vote against the measure to give the impression they voted with their conscious? Although I fully expect something along the lines of "not enough eligible pensioners have taken up the offer despite extensive promotions therefore we will shift it to a taxable benefit or via council tax band. 

[Malc1]

8 minutes ago, Phil xxkr said:

Dream on Ron. Reeves&Rayner have form in wanting this. I didn't know until recently that the formers husband is a £170k a year civil servant 🤯. Do you think they'll need £200 when they retire? What will be interesting is to see next week how many Labour MP's will be whipped to vote against the measure to give the impression they voted with their conscious? Although I fully expect something along the lines of "not enough eligible pensioners have taken up the offer despite extensive promotions therefore we will shift it to a taxable benefit or via council tax band. 

Reading earlier that Reeves Queen of Thieves and husband enjoy a joint annual income from whatever salaries and allowances of @£450-500k 

Methinks ZERO empathy with OAPs  🥵 

[Malc1]

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[Boomer54]

5 hours ago, Malc1 said:

Invalid address.  No PostCode  failure I’m afraid 🥵🤣

anyway you missed Zebedee Alouicious …….. he’s living with Larry at no.10 with the ingrates behind bars, those railings  ……. Larry’s putting in an application about overcrowding  🥵

Malc 

Oh, you want a postcode. Let's try thus one

FU66 0AP

No, you can work it out for yourself. 😁

[DavidCM]

9 hours ago, Kevin Williams said:

Kevin ...there is an alternative version of this circulating wit a Banksy esqe picture of Stalin, Sorry Starmer,with a four letter word I couldn't quite make out...I think it said something like canute.Probably not suitable for here.

[Malc1]

7 hours ago, Malc1 said:

Now then 

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491,011   Signatures 

 

Malc 

 

492,179.     Signatures now 👍👏👏👍

Malc 

[Boomer54]

4 minutes ago, Malc1 said:

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Malc 

Be nice if it could reach that big fat round number 500k.

[Malc1]

7 hours ago, Boomer54 said:

Be nice if it could reach that big fat round number 500k.

Be better if Starmer and Reeves and the ALL the Labour MPs collectively desisted from handing down their Official Govt Death Warrant to many thousands of our OAPs this winter 

Rest assured very many WILL DIE this winter thru this Labour Govt action 

Petition now at 

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[Malc1]

4 hours ago, Malc1 said:

Be better if Starmer and Reeves and the ALL the Labour MPs collectively desisted from handing down their Official Govt Death Warrant to many thousands of our OAPs this winter 

Rest assured very many WILL DIE this winter thru this Labour Govt action 

Petition now at 

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Malc 

 

493,052. Signatures just now 👍👍

Malc