Mossy's SC430

[Malc1]

Fly the car to Dublin and do a magical trans Ireland adventure ……. otherwise a ferry xng of course 😄

Malc 

[Mossypossy]

Sounds a bit wet!

[Bob King]

Would Austria be a good motoring holiday ? 
        

[Mossypossy]

Is Austria really tough on emissions and tolls? Never been.

[Bob King]

17 minutes ago, Mossypossy said:

Is Austria really tough on emissions and tolls? Never been.

Couldn’t tell you I went on a sleeper train 😉

[Malc1]

You’ll enjoy Italy Top to Toe and up into the mountains and around the lakes …… bootiful driving, the month i did wasn’t really enough tbh 

Could be a minor Life Changing experience ……. along the Amalfi coast somewhere they grow lemons you can happily eat the whole ….. no wincing necessary 😂

Malc 

[Mossypossy]

Certainly going to dip into Italy.

Also planning Sardinia later in the year. Fly drive then...slum it with a cheap hire car.

[Alboy]

4 hours ago, Mossypossy said:

OK

Planning another Lexus Euro Roadtrip next year.

Two months duration.

May and June.

Did Spain Portugal this year.

Suggestions please..must be a lovely loop....no car ferries.

Have just added up the countries I have visited over many years by motorbike and car I think it is 15. Last year I passed through 10 countries (not including England) on my bike travelling to Croatia and back. I would say France is by far the best country in Europe.

[Mossypossy]

We do like France. As it is so huge a large chunk of the two months would be spent there anyway, if we do Italy.

Don't like to do more than 250 miles in a day as a rule. No need when we have plenty of time to dawdle.

May even avoid motorways entirely.

Working out a rough route...

 

[Alboy]

18 hours ago, Mossypossy said:

Is Austria really tough on emissions and tolls? Never been.

Passed through Austria on m/c this year didn't see any restrictions for emissions and avoided toll roads.

[Alboy]

13 hours ago, Mossypossy said:

We do like France. As it is so huge a large chunk of the two months would be spent there anyway, if we do Italy.

Don't like to do more than 250 miles in a day as a rule. No need when we have plenty of time to dawdle.

May even avoid motorways entirely.

Working out a rough route...

 

If you go to Italy, be prepared for traffic jams and roads in worse condition than in the UK. I went to Lake Garda some years ago and would recommend the lakes.

[Malc1]

Italian motorways were a bundle of non-joy when I visited ………. sometimes suddenly ending in unsurfaced, progressing down to unmade sections before dragging off onto the ordinary bad roads …….. and some Italian drivers were stupendous in their hilarious manoueverings 🤣😂😰 🥵

I never pre booked accommodation, just arrived more or less where I thought I should that day and always found summat quite ok ……. pre-booking so ties one down to places you might not wish to end the day at ……. realism sometimes “ hurts” once you get there 

Yes, 2 months adventuring around would have been better ……. just be more aware that travelling in the south might put you more on edge coz the mafioso has greater control …… but a simple older Lexus traveller should be clear of grief 🤞🤞🤞

Main thing is to just ENJOY 👍

Malc 

[Alboy]

4 hours ago, Malc1 said:

Italian motorways were a bundle of non-joy when I visited ………. sometimes suddenly ending in unsurfaced, progressing down to unmade sections before dragging off onto the ordinary bad roads …….. and some Italian drivers were stupendous in their hilarious manoueverings 🤣😂😰 🥵

I never pre booked accommodation, just arrived more or less where I thought I should that day and always found summat quite ok ……. pre-booking so ties one down to places you might not wish to end the day at ……. realism sometimes “ hurts” once you get there 

Yes, 2 months adventuring around would have been better ……. just be more aware that travelling in the south might put you more on edge coz the mafioso has greater control …… but a simple older Lexus traveller should be clear of grief 🤞🤞🤞

Main thing is to just ENJOY 👍

Malc 

Last year my motorbike holiday was a tour of Italy, likewise no booked accomodation. We went down the west coast about 100 mile beyond the Amalfi coast (which is a beautiful stretch of coastline, but was horrendous in the traffic and June heat) then across the country to the East coast which had less traffic but fewer nice towns. In summary, a beautiful country spoilt by awful traffic anywhere near a large town or city, probably better in an air conditioned / convertible car than on a bike. Many years since I went the lakes but despite the journey to and from it is lovely.

[Mossypossy]

Decided on my route down.

Nearly sorted out return leg.

Will be almost ten weeks in the Lexus. Many miles on crazy Italian roads!!

 

[Malc1]

I’m envying you 😄

Malc 

[Boomer54]

1 hour ago, Malc1 said:

I’m envying you 😄

Malc 

He's my hero doing what I would love to do if only my body belonged to someone else.

[Mossypossy]

Made it to Switzerland now. Via Modena!

 

[Mossypossy]

Wine route.

Chablis, Burgundy, Beaujolais, Barolo, Morelino di Scansano, Trebbiano/Malvasia, Lambrusco (euww), Barbera, Swiss Valais bonkers varietals.

Should keep me busy. But Nebbiolo is my favourite grape so all good....two visits to Piedmont.

[GMB]

 

I agree about Barolo (and Brunello d M too). I will never forget drinking this 1958 Barolo at a trade fair with the London agents/shippers - Belloni. They were all dressed in brown pinstripe suits and fedora hats.  Lovely people who had sole supplier connections with the finest wineries in Italy. I am convinced that they had very good connections with the Corleone family. You had to be recommended in order to deal with them!

Most Barolo is drunk far too young and it ages so well,  Italian Rooftile red with brown edges, with just a hint of madeirisation but just enough to add character not to dominate, fantastic violets and elegant dark fruit flavours with a deep and lasting flavour.  Hope you find some good ones, they are so hard to find over here at a reasonable price.

[Mossypossy]

I remember selling 1958 Barolo, and 1961. Seemed old in 1986!!

[GMB]

Me too. The 58 and the 61 Borgogno Riservas were excellent.

[Boomer54]

16 hours ago, GMB said:

 

I agree about Barolo (and Brunello d M too). I will never forget drinking this 1958 Barolo at a trade fair with the London agents/shippers - Belloni. They were all dressed in brown pinstripe suits and fedora hats.  Lovely people who had sole supplier connections with the finest wineries in Italy. I am convinced that they had very good connections with the Corleone family. You had to be recommended in order to deal with them!

Most Barolo is drunk far too young and it ages so well,  but just enough to add character not to dominate, fantastic violets and elegant dark fruit flavours with a deep and lasting flavour.  Hope you find some good ones, they are so hard to find over here at a reasonable price.

Wow, you could have been describing me.

"Barolo is drunk far too young and it ages so well".

Stephen is drunk far too often and doesn't behave well.

"Italian Rooftile red with brown edges, with just a hint of madeirisation".

Italian sun sends his head beetroot red, with just a hint of peeling.

"character not to dominate, fantastic violets and elegant dark fruit flavours with a deep and lasting flavour. "

His boring character fails to dominate, but his viole(n)t rages and dark moods leave a lasting cloud.

"hard to find over here at a reasonable price."

He is hard to find when something needs to be done ,but he is cheap.

Uncanny.