New (2023) UX250h encrypted CANBUS?

[UX250HTAK]

Does anyone know if the refreshed 2023 UX250h has an encrypted CANBUS? I know that the new NX and RX do, and that they are now immune to the wheel-arch theft method. 

[Roger Bill]

Good question. It'd be good to know. I've bought a StopLock Pro Elite steering wheel lock which is a real,  heavy weight deterrent but it is a faff to fit.

[Lancashirelad1985]

I’m looking at a 23 or 72 plate this weekend. If there’s a difference I’ll get the 23.

[UX250HTAK]

43 minutes ago, Lancashirelad1985 said:

I’m looking at a 23 or 72 plate this weekend. If there’s a difference I’ll get the 23.

The difference I'm looking for is between the pre-facelift (i.e. trackpad/non touch screen) models and the new touch screen versions. Some MY72 cars are the 'new' 2023 versions.

[Lancashirelad1985]

14 minutes ago, UX250HTAK said:

The difference I'm looking for is between the pre-facelift (i.e. trackpad/non touch screen) models and the new touch screen versions. Some MY72 cars are the 'new' 2023 versions.

Yeah I’m the same. So interested to know if there’s a difference in cambus protection.

[UX250HTAK]

38 minutes ago, Lancashirelad1985 said:

Yeah I’m the same. So interested to know if there’s a difference in cambus protection.

Please let us know what the dealer says 🙂

[LMM]

That information won't stop the ragbags from attempting a can bus attack. They won't know it is protected or not - sadly.

[Don C]

I raised the question of a protection plate with Lexus but they said it doesn’t apply to a UX.  The trouble is, they respond via the dealer (who are very pleasant) but it doesn’t give you the opportunity to clarify the response.  

[Lancashirelad1985]

To be honest it wouldn’t put me off getting the car if not, I’ve several work colleagues with a UX and they’ve never had issues despite living and working in Manchester.

[UX250HTAK]

1 hour ago, LMM said:

That information won't stop the ragbags from attempting a can bus attack. They won't know it is protected or not - sadly.

Agree, but it would prevent the car from being stolen at least

[Bezzer]

1 hour ago, Don C said:

I raised the question of a protection plate with Lexus but they said it doesn’t apply to a UX.  The trouble is, they respond via the dealer (who are very pleasant) but it doesn’t give you the opportunity to clarify the response.  

In the the dealers last week and hanging round while it had it's 1st service, mine is a 72 reg facelift model. Asked about security before I invest in something aftermarket, got same reply about a plate and no mention at all of an encrypted canbus or any other extra security measure

[UX250HTAK]

If anyone has an official dealer/Lexus HQ answer to this question I would be really interested to know - am concerned of the risk of these being taken if not encrypted - the UX is the 4th most commonly stolen car in France and there are already reports of the pre-facelift UX being stolen this way in the UK.

[Roger Bill]

6 hours ago, LMM said:

That information won't stop the ragbags from attempting a can bus attack. They won't know it is protected or not - sadly.

The visibility of a steering wheel lock is perhaps it's biggest advantage.

[stevewagster]

Has anyone fitted a Disclock and if so, how did you get on with it, was it ok!

[Roger Bill]

1 hour ago, stevewagster said:

Has anyone fitted a Disclock and if so, how did you get on with it, was it ok!

Have got a StopLock Pro Elite steering wheel lock which, like the Disclock, provides a visible deterrent. The main problem is remembering to fit it. The DiscLock might be a little clumsy but you need to ensure it fits over the lump in the centre of the UX's steering wheel.

Alternatively maybe plates can be fitted under the wheel arches or aftermarket Canbus immobilisers are available for c£500 eg Ghost and Starline.

[stevewagster]

On 11/16/2023 at 8:01 AM, Lancashirelad1985 said:

I’m looking at a 23 or 72 plate this weekend. If there’s a difference I’ll get the 23.

Hi

I just wondered if you found a UX to buy, if not mine will be up for sale shortly and could do a great price!

 

[stevewagster]

2 hours ago, Roger Bill said:

Have got a StopLock Pro Elite steering wheel lock which, like the Disclock, provides a visible deterrent. The main problem is remembering to fit it. The DiscLock might be a little clumsy but you need to ensure it fits over the lump in the centre of the UX's steering wheel.

Alternatively maybe plates can be fitted under the wheel arches or aftermarket Canbus immobilisers are available for c£500 eg Ghost and Starline.

Hi Roger

Thanks for the info, I had a StopLock back in the 80s and as you say, a good visual deterrent and a third of the price of a Disclock, so that may be the way to go for now.