RCF (carbon) windscreen

[Rompy]

Anyone had a replacement windscreen fitted yet? Mines covered in chips and just got a minor on MOT. My insurers are linked to  Aut********  (aren’t they all), but I’m nervous of all the electronic stuff on the screen AND the carbon roof. I can just imagine the phone call …. “We had a bit of trouble removing the old screen and we cracked the roof. But it wasn’t our fault”

Am I worrying unnecessarily? I was going to lean on my insurance to see if I can get the screen fitted by Lexus. 

I don’t know where other carbon panelled (super) cars have screens fitted. Perhaps companies like Aut******** have the experience nowadays?

So can anyone put my mind at rest that RCF windscreens and all their electronic systems are ok when fitted by a car glass company - and any thoughts on implications of that carbon?

What could possibly go wrong????!!!!

[NemesisUK]

Not a RC-F carbon but I had the screen replacement on my RC and the fitter was very careful. Said he had done quite a few RC lately. Not autoglass but national windscreen and done on my driveway (with me watching from an upstairs window!).

I elected to have the ADAS recalibration done via my dealership, which took a whole day! 

 

[Rompy]

1 hour ago, NemesisUK said:

Not a RC-F carbon but I had the screen replacement on my RC and the fitter was very careful. Said he had done quite a few RC lately. Not autoglass but national windscreen and done on my driveway (with me watching from an upstairs window!).

I elected to have the ADAS recalibration done via my dealership, which took a whole day! 

 

Cheers. Did your insurers cover the dealer doing the calibration? I’m gearing up for a fight to simply get the whole job done at Lexus 

[NemesisUK]

1 hour ago, Rompy said:

Cheers. Did your insurers cover the dealer doing the calibration? I’m gearing up for a fight to simply get the whole job done at Lexus 

No it didn't. My insurance covered the screen replacement (it was a genuine screen from Lexus.eu. My appointment was rescheduled 3 times because of supply issues) and roadside 'recalibration' basically the fitter runs a quick diagnostic to ensure all functions work.

My OCD wouldn't let me accept that so I paid to have the system done 'properly' through my dealership. They organised it all but the car had to go to a specialist workshop to have it done. Lexus don't have the space or equipement to do it themselves. Included in the work was a complete factory restset of the suspension geometry, with before and after printouts provided. Not cheap at ~£400  I feel the system works better now than I remember from before (lane assist and roadsign recognition especially) but I realise I have approx 400 reason to think that!! 😉

[Rob RCF]

7 hours ago, Rompy said:

Anyone had a replacement windscreen fitted yet? Mines covered in chips and just got a minor on MOT. My insurers are linked to  Aut********  (aren’t they all), but I’m nervous of all the electronic stuff on the screen AND the carbon roof. I can just imagine the phone call …. “We had a bit of trouble removing the old screen and we cracked the roof. But it wasn’t our fault”

Am I worrying unnecessarily? I was going to lean on my insurance to see if I can get the screen fitted by Lexus. 

I don’t know where other carbon panelled (super) cars have screens fitted. Perhaps companies like Aut******** have the experience nowadays?

So can anyone put my mind at rest that RCF windscreens and all their electronic systems are ok when fitted by a car glass company - and any thoughts on implications of that carbon?

What could possibly go wrong????!!!!

Is there something about carbon roofs that makes the process different? I've heard this from someone else too, so just wondered.

I'm not sure how much negotiation opportunity you'll have, but you could inform them you have a carbon roof and that you want a fitter who's experienced doing them. You never know they might decide to play it safe and send one of their best fitters out.

I'd also be questioning what glass they plan to use. The Lexus glass has special properties such as UV and thermal insulation. So you want something that matches it. "Like for like" is the term I think.

Out of interest how big are your chips and where are they on the windscreen? I also have a few, but they are quite tiny, MOT coming up soon as well.

[08ISF]

When I had a replacement screen fitted to my GSF the biggest issue was getting one in the first place.I had to wait about 3 weeks because there were none in the country. If there are delays don't be fobbed off with "we don't know which dealership Au*****ss deal with" as they deal direct with Lexus UK and the screen I got was from Lexus. Bearing in mind these are fairly rare cars I can't see many people being interested in making pattern parts. The fitter was very careful taking the screen out and putting the new one in and the camera stuff worked as well afterwards as it had before  ( which is not very well) . I didn't bother with recalibration because I don't use LKA and I look at road signs to tell me what the speed limit is.

[NemesisUK]

Apparently one should be advised to get ADAS recalibrated even after tracking or suspension geometry adjustments. ADAS is involved in many safety systems, from pre-collision and vehicle stability programs

https://www.absolutewheelalignment.co.uk/13/the-adas-effect/

[Rompy]

1 hour ago, Rob RCF said:

Is there something about carbon roofs that makes the process different? I've heard this from someone else too, so just wondered.

I'm not sure how much negotiation opportunity you'll have, but you could inform them you have a carbon roof and that you want a fitter who's experienced doing them. You never know they might decide to play it safe and send one of their best fitters out.

I'd also be questioning what glass they plan to use. The Lexus glass has special properties such as UV and thermal insulation. So you want something that matches it. "Like for like" is the term I think.

Out of interest how big are your chips and where are they on the windscreen? I also have a few, but they are quite tiny, MOT coming up soon as well.

I think that carbon fibre is both brittle and liable to scratch. I don’t know of anyone suffering breakages, but then I don’t mix in circles where cars are made of this substance. 

The multiple (4x) chips and scratches aren’t very big and I’ve had one repaired already. But the fact that they are minor defects on my MOT has spurred me to do something. 

I will contact Aut****** next to see where they source glass from and any problems I’ll be on to my “nautical” insurer. I see that they state windscreen repairs won’t affect no claims, but may affect next years premium. 
 

and I’ve contacted the closest two Lexus dealers who have confirmed that they don’t install glass, but sub this out. 
 

it’s becoming more of a faff than I anticipated