Ownership Costs

[Ozzay]

Just thought I would share because when I looked at the spend it seems like a lot but most of this has been general maintenance except the rear passenger side calliper seizing. Definately makes sense to stick to the car now that I spent this much. IS250 used was £2600 at 83,000 miles.

Here is my spend I keep a track of this. The cost includes parts and labour.

Tell me what you guys think.

	Date	Parts	Info	Mileage	Cost
Acquired on	11/1/2021	First fuel was Shell 99 Octane
Last service on purchase	2018		Log book stamp
Purchase Halfords	12/1/2021	Castrol Magnatec 5W30 A5 Oil 4 Litre x2	Halfords		£35.00
Purchase EuroCarParts	12/1/2021	Crosland Air Filter, Bosch Oil Filter, Crosland Cabin Filter	EuroCarParts		£31.61
Service	16/1/2021	Crosland Air Filter, Bosch Oil Filter, Crosland Cabin Filte, Oil Magnatec A5	Garage		£30.00
Wheel Alignment	20/1/2021	Only front wheel was slightly off, not too bad. All green.	Garage		£40.00
New Front Tyres	3/3/2021	Dunlop Sport Maxx RT 2 225/45 R17 Y (94) X2	Garage		£160.00
OBD Home Check	2/3/2021	OBD Reader	Home, 0 Faults codes.		£0.00
Trans Oil Change Full	11/6/2021	Filter & Gasket Seal & 5L Oil (Aisin Gearbox Fluid)	Gearbox Oils Ltd, Thurrock		£280.00
Brakes	22/6/2021	Pagid Front brake discs and Pads	Garage		£170.10
Service	17/8/2021	Engine Oil and Oil Filter (Mobil 1 ESP 5w30 6L)	Garage	88413	£115.77
Coolant 4L Roughly Drain/Refill	6/10/2021	Toyota Super Long Life Coolant	Garage	89477	£74.88
Service	18/03/2022	Engine Oil and Oil Filter and Air Filter (Mobil 1 ESP 5w30 6L)	Garage	93000	£121.79
Brakes	18/03/2022	Pagid Rear brake discs and Pads	Garage	93000	£127.19
Driver Rear Caliper Repair	18/03/2022	N/A	Garage	93000	£80.00
New Passenger Rear Caliper	25/03/2022	Purchased Pin Sliding Kit (Toyota Parts and eBay) + Pagid Caliper	Garage	93050	£149.18
Wheel Alignment		No issues (check only)	Garage		£20.00
OBD Home Check	29/4/2022	OBD Reader	Home, 0 Faults codes.	93000	£0.00
Spark Plugs (Original Denso) + Labour	11/05/2022	Lexus Parts Direct and £60 Labour	Garage	93111	£143.98
Oil Additive		STP Oil Treatment X2			£11.00
Hydraulic Additive	12/05/2022	Wynns Hydraulic Lifter Fluid			£10.00
Car Body Repair			Garage (Body Shop)		£220.0
Gasket Seal Repair			Garage		£300.0

 

Have not done the Gasket Seal repair but factored it in because I did mention in another thread old spark plugs which were not changed for 8 years had oil on 3 of them and the mechanic advised to sort the seals out.

It is a lot of money but then again had I bought the car for £3500 I would still have these general repairs. 

What do you guys think. Done around 10,000 miles since I got it. 

 

Total spend on maintenance = £2120.50

[Herbie]

12 minutes ago, Ozzay said:

Tell me what you guys think.

I think you need a hobby

Who cares what it costs? Just enjoy it.

[Linas.P]

Many thing I would not call "general maintenance", I would class them under "consumables" or "wear and tear items" e.g. tyres or brake pads, those are just things you have to change from time to time, same as fill up the tank with petrol. The rear callipers, or valve cover gasket - yes that is "general maintenance".

I think some lines have moved around a bit, so it is hard to figure out what cost what. All in all, £2120 sounds like a lot of money, but it seems you have fixed every single small bit.

Other thing to note - if you cold do it by yourself you would have saved like £500 e.g. spark plugs, pads and disks that is what I would do myself. 

I am doing similar log for all of my cars as well, really helps to keep on top of maintenance and you kind of know when it is time to do something. So that is good habit. 

[Malc]

8 hours ago, Herbie said:

8 hours ago, Ozzay said:

Tell me what you guys think.

I think you need a hobby

Who cares what it costs? Just enjoy it.

OCD springs to mind !

My dad and my uncle Bert always used to keep a log of the petrol spent and journeys they did in their cars BUT I am talking of the mindset from 70 years ago  ......  times thankfully have moved on ..........  and so's the comparative cost of petrol probably ..  but there hangs a Q ......... what is the comparative fuel costs these days I wonder 

Malc

[chr15gb]

Looks like a good testament to the reliability of these cars.
Sliding pins aside, that is simply the cost of running a car for 10k miles whilst keeping it well maintained.

Compare that to my old BMW 530D of a similar age (a small sample of the memorable bits).

• Turbo - £1,700
• Cracked Exhaust Manifold - £1,100 (replacement cracked also which is when I got shot of the car)
• Pretty much every suspension component in successive years, about £800
• Parking Sensors x4
• Bluetooth module (got through three of these, accepting they were old eBay replacements and an age learning how to code)
• Thermostats x 2
• Glowplug conroller
• EGR replacement due to split diaphragm

The turbo, manifold and suspension were done by garages, the rest DIY on my drive.
Then add your list above for general maintenance, oils, brakes, tyres etc.

The BMW was a fantastic car to drive, the IS250 is very pedestrian compared to the BMW but BMW are simply money pits.
I can't describe the diagnostic time which goes into the BMW before buying and fitting the correct replacement parts.

[Ozzay]

12 hours ago, Linas.P said:

Many thing I would not call "general maintenance", I would class them under "consumables" or "wear and tear items" e.g. tyres or brake pads, those are just things you have to change from time to time, same as fill up the tank with petrol. The rear callipers, or valve cover gasket - yes that is "general maintenance".

I think some lines have moved around a bit, so it is hard to figure out what cost what. All in all, £2120 sounds like a lot of money, but it seems you have fixed every single small bit.

Other thing to note - if you cold do it by yourself you would have saved like £500 e.g. spark plugs, pads and disks that is what I would do myself. 

I am doing similar log for all of my cars as well, really helps to keep on top of maintenance and you kind of know when it is time to do something. So that is good habit. 

Your right. Labour is where I should have saved money on this car for the basics. Having your own garage or drive helps with these things as you can just leave it and be in peace if something messes up.

[Ozzay]

2 hours ago, chr15gb said:

Looks like a good testament to the reliability of these cars.
Sliding pins aside, that is simply the cost of running a car for 10k miles whilst keeping it well maintained.

Compare that to my old BMW 530D of a similar age (a small sample of the memorable bits).

• Turbo - £1,700
• Cracked Exhaust Manifold - £1,100 (replacement cracked also which is when I got shot of the car)
• Pretty much every suspension component in successive years, about £800
• Parking Sensors x4
• Bluetooth module (got through three of these, accepting they were old ebay replacements and an age learning how to code)
• Thermostats x 2
• Glowplug conroller
• EGR replacement due to split diaphragm

The turbo, manifold and suspension were done by garages, the rest DIY on my drive.
Then add your list above for general maintenance, oils, brakes, tyres etc.

The BMW was a fantastic car to drive, the IS250 is very pedestrian compared to the BMW but BMW are simply money pits.
I can't describe the diagnostic time which goes into the BMW before buying and fitting the correct replacement parts.

It is pricey what you have described but would not mind a 6 cylinder 530d

[Malc]

Oz, aren't BMWs renowned as moneypits ?  Many people have these dreadfully expensive experiences methinks 

Your compacency with the Lexus tiny costs ......... don't hanker after looming bankruptcy 

Malc

[zoricib]

I keep a similar log with most thigs I did to the car since I got it in July 2020. I do this largely as the car didn't come with a service book so that's kind of my service history during my ownership

 

	Total expense	£1,747.00
July 2020	Service - oil, filter, sparkplugs, brake fluid, coolant, diff oil	£430.00
September 2020	rear tyres & 4wheel alignment	£250.00
October 2020	Mot	£37.00
October 2020	water pump, belt & pulleys	£230.00
November 2020	Battery	£90.00
21 Aug 2021	oil & air/cabin/oil filters Change @92730	£100.00
October 2021	MOT	£45.00
5th march 2022	stainless steel back boxes	£380.00
29th March	Ceramic window tints	£185.00

 

 

[Ozzay]

12 minutes ago, zoricib said:

I keep a similar log with most thigs I did to the car since I got it in July 2020. I do this largely as the car didn't come with a service book so that's kind of my service history during my ownership

 

 

	Total expense	£1,747.00
July 2020	Service - oil, filter, sparkplugs, brake fluid, coolant, diff oil	£430.00
September 2020	rear tyres & 4wheel alignment	£250.00
October 2020	Mot	£37.00
October 2020	water pump, belt & pulleys	£230.00
November 2020	Battery	£90.00
21 Aug 2021	oil & air/cabin/oil filters Change @92730	£100.00
October 2021	MOT	£45.00
5th march 2022	stainless steel back boxes	£380.00
29th March	Ceramic window tints	£185.00

 

 

I have not done diff oil do you think its worth doing?

[zoricib]

It was on the maintenance list and cheap enough to be done so went with it. I did a big service after I got the car and tried to check as many things possible from the servicing list for peace of mind. 

[Beamish]

 

I have not done diff oil do you think its worth doing?

Definately worth doing.  It's easy to do and not expensive. 

From memory I think the recomended change interval is 40K miles so you are probably well due!!

[mikes5]

I have just changed diff oil, surprised how dirty it was for sealed unit. 75k miles 2006 is250. very easy job. 

[Mr Vlad]

According to LexTec gearbox and rear diff oil change at 100k intervals. I phoned them last week for a quote, still waiting for a call back. 

[scudney]

How many litres does the diff oil change need/take please 🤔 

[J Henderson]

Frustratingly, just over a litre (about 1.2), so 2 bottles need to be purchased.

[scudney]

Thanks for your response John,much appreciated will order 2 bottles 🙂👍

[J Henderson]

Was thinking about doing mine too.

You planning to DIY? Sounds easy enough providing the fill & drain plugs can be cracked loose... 🤔

[Texas]

Remember to Always remove Fill plug first before draining Diff oil. ( to ensure you can actually put oil back in after removing Drain plug)

[scudney]

Nah will let my garage do it lol 

[Texas]

Here is a actual ‘How To’ on diff oil change.