Will I need a new tyre ?

e-yes · May 11, 2022

Hi,

A couple days ago got the TPMS warning. I topped up the tyre pressure to 2.4 on all four tyres. Front left was way under inflated (2.15 Bar)

Checked the pressure again earlier this evening and the pressure had dropped to 2.3 on this one where all other were 2.5. On very careful scientific observations, noticed there was a screw 😕

The tyres have not even done 8000 miles so far. Should I get it repaired OR bite the rubber and get a new tyre. I don't drive often (yet) but every other week I have a 200 mile round trip... sometimes twice a week.

--E

royoftherovers · May 11, 2022

Repair if it can be repaired. If not then buy new. Tough luck Les.

e-yes · May 11, 2022

Thanks John for the prompt reply.

Do I need to get the tyre replacement done at Lexus due to the TPMS sensors OR this is something which the likes of Kwik Fit mobile can do it as well ? I understand that sensors get calibrated after a Reset from dashboard and about 5 miles of driving. But don't remember if any other special juju is needed ?

Thanks,

--E

NemesisUK · May 11, 2022

Take it to a reputable tyre shop and they will advise, it's quite close to the sidewall but maybe ok to repair.

The TPMS sensor wont need any special attention, tyre shops are very accustomed to them these days. It will function without any reset, just get the tyre pressure correct. Tyre shops tend to massively over inflate!

royoftherovers · May 11, 2022

21 minutes ago, e-yes said:

Thanks John for the prompt reply.

Do I need to get the tyre replacement done at Lexus due to the TPMS sensors OR this is something which the likes of Kwik Fit mobile can do it as well ? I understand that sensors get calibrated after a Reset from dashboard and about 5 miles of driving. But don't remember if any other special juju is needed ?

Thanks,

--E

As Peter has said above..

I had a similar puncture repaired recently by a reputable tyre specialist.

Avoid Kwikfit and similar like the plague Les.

Herbie · May 11, 2022

They wouldn't repair this so I had to replace:

STE041 · May 11, 2022

33 minutes ago, e-yes said:

Hi,

A couple days ago got the TPMS warning. I topped up the tyre pressure to 2.4 on all four tyres. Front left was way under inflated (2.15 Bar)

Checked the pressure again earlier this evening and the pressure had dropped to 2.3 on this one where all other were 2.5. On very careful scientific observations, noticed there was a screw 😕

The tyres have not even done 8000 miles so far. Should I get it repaired OR bite the rubber and get a new tyre. I don't drive often (yet) but every other week I have a 200 mile round trip... sometimes twice a week.

--E

That will need replacing - just had this on mine. Did a 400 mile round trip with a couple of screw in the same place of your with no issues, changed it after the trip. Most places will not repair the tyre unless the puncture is in the centre track of the tyre.

steve2006 · May 11, 2022

Always wondered how a screw can get embedded in a tyre so close to the sidewall.

If you drop a screw it will fall onto its side not be stood up in such a position as to penetrate a tyre, something like a box of felting tacks scattered on the road yes I can see that but a screw no.

F.A. · May 12, 2022

I’ve had to replace 4 rear tyres in the last 18 months due to a screw in a similar position. It can not be repaired because it’s too close to the side wall.

Moleman · May 12, 2022

7 hours ago, steve2006 said:

Always wondered how a screw can get embedded in a tyre so close to the sidewall.

If you drop a screw it will fall onto its side not be stood up in such a position as to penetrate a tyre, something like a box of felting tacks scattered on the road yes I can see that but a screw no.

Same here, how does that happen?

e-yes · May 12, 2022

8 hours ago, steve2006 said:

Always wondered how a screw can get embedded in a tyre so close to the sidewall.

If you drop a screw it will fall onto its side not be stood up in such a position as to penetrate a tyre, something like a box of felting tacks scattered on the road yes I can see that but a screw no.

I guess at slow speed on loose surface there is leverage for the screw to turn pointing up and penetrate the rubber surface ? (I do have a lose gravel driveway)

At high(er) speeds and formed surface the screw cannot win and any number of things can happen ie can break into at least two pieces, or depending on the weight of the vehicle might even embed it into the road surface or ... ... ...

OR someone intentionally is doing this because they specifically wanted me to change my front left tyre 😕

Like John said above... tough luck 😕

--E

steve2006 · May 12, 2022

A possible explanation but given the scaling it could be a puncture caused by a traffic cone.

LenT · May 12, 2022

28 minutes ago, e-yes said:

OR someone intentionally is doing this because they specifically wanted me to change my front left tyre 😕

Some years ago a friend was puzzled by two nails that turned up, one after the other, in a front tyre of his Landrover.

Approaching it again one morning, he noticed something glinting by the front tyre. It was a nail carefully propped up against the tyre.

Fortunately that was the last time it happened. Equally fortunately, he never discovered who was doing it.

So the thought that the OP was a victim of such vandalism did occur to me, but for it to be deliberate, I would have thought the screw would be more certain of causing damage if it had been inserted into one of the sipes.

Malc · May 12, 2022

I live on a semi residential road like many here and I'm not infrequently just glinting at a nail or screw having been carelessly dropped by someone somehow . I always pick it up and pop it into the closed lid bin ............... tyres can be so ridiculously expensive and especially nowadays when repairs seem to often be simply a NO

If it can be repiared then great .... and maybe swap it for your spare .... or are you one of the unfortunates that doesn;t have a " proper " spare these days ?

Malc

e-yes · May 12, 2022

56 minutes ago, Malc said:

or are you one of the unfortunates that doesn;t have a " proper " spare these days ?

Yep. No spare 😕

Ala Larj · May 12, 2022

I do miss a proper spare. At least I’ve got a spacesaver!

wharfhouse · May 12, 2022

When I have had a nail/screw in my tyre it has often been after a visit to the local household waste/recycling centre... At our centre we reverse into a space and so I try not to go too far back now in the hope that I'm less likely to pick up a nail/screw that someone has dropped unloading their car previously...

PRT68 · May 12, 2022

Try being a Taxi driver! Many punctured and written off tyres caused by screws, nails and glass.

Certain estates in my town always needed extra care , especially when turning round. Many bits left about from dismantled cars and fly tipping!

The dreaded tick tick noise as the wheels went round, resulting in putting the car in neutral and pushing it whilst looking for the culprit. I even carried large self tappers to plug a hole to get me to a repair place!

Memorable one was a double, caused by running over a bottle. Had to get a mate to pop to my house to pick up another wheel from my garage at 3.00 in the morning!

MrTrendizzle · May 12, 2022

14 hours ago, Herbie said:

They wouldn't repair this so I had to replace:

Typically a repair is only done on the center 3 lines. The edge of the tyre or sidewall is a no go for most. It's not that it can't be repaired but more of a "If it blows up" the tyre shop is in for a surprise visit and bill.
I've bought one of those tyre plug kits from amazon. You get a T shaped file bar and some rubber strips and glue. Honestly it works a treat but i know if my tyre explodes it's only me to blame.

This is the kit i bought and the only time i've used it i can't complain. road side fix in 20 minutes. I didn't even have to jack the car up or remove the wheel. Just roll the car so the puncture was accessible. Still running fine after 3k miles and had the tyre off and back on for painting the wheels.

DavidCM · May 12, 2022

I think repairs are not possible on the outer and inner most tread blocks.The inner ones are fine.

LenT · May 12, 2022

22 minutes ago, DavidCM said:

I think repairs are not possible on the outer and inner most tread blocks.The inner ones are fine.

Yes, I think it’s expressed as the centre 3/4 of the tread - and the maximum permitted size of the repair is 6mm. Also tyres rated V or over are only allowed one repair - although I think this would have to be a ‘professional’ standard of repair in any case.

incidentally, these roadside ‘string’ repairs are regarded as temporary because without removing the tyre and inspecting the carcass, it’s not possible to determine what other damage may have been done internally to the other layers that constitute the tread.

steve2006 · May 12, 2022

Whilst at Japfest a few weeks ago I was wondering around the drift car pit area and noticed a stack of tyres worn down to the cords.

Noticing my interest one of the mechanics jokingly asked if I wanted to buy them. I then asked how long the tyres lasted.

”One session on the track” was the reply !

Not surprised I think I came home with rubber lined lungs.

e-yes · May 16, 2022

Thanks for all the inputs folks.

Had to get a new tyre as many of you suspected it would not be possible to get it repaired. Luckily found the exact same brand/spec as the current set (Dunlop Sport Maxx) at a local outfit.

Regards,

--E

royoftherovers · May 16, 2022

13 minutes ago, e-yes said:

Thanks for all the inputs folks.

Had to get a new tyre as many of you suspected it would not be possible to get it repaired. Luckily found the exact same brand/spec as the current set (Dunlop Sport Maxx) at a local outfit.

Regards,

--E

Thanks for the update Les.