Yet another automatic oil change question - BG flushing and Total oil products?

[m4rkw]

Late to this thread but I would definitely not put anything in a transmission other than the manufacturer-recommended lubricant under any circumstances.

See here for wise old mechanic's thoughts on transmission flushes: https://www.agcoauto.com/content/news/p2_articleid/29

Drop the pan, change the filter assembly and replace the fluid - that's a proper service. Flushing may do more harm than good and even if the garage has some kind of warranty on the flushing process, if the unit fails 3k miles later there's no way you'll be able to prove the cause.

[Alfalfa]

12 minutes ago, m4rkw said:

Late to this thread but I would definitely not put anything in a transmission other than the manufacturer-recommended lubricant under any circumstances.

See here for wise old mechanic's thoughts on transmission flushes: https://www.agcoauto.com/content/news/p2_articleid/29

Drop the pan, change the filter assembly and replace the fluid - that's a proper service. Flushing may do more harm than good and even if the garage has some kind of warranty on the flushing process, if the unit fails 3k miles later there's no way you'll be able to prove the cause.

If the gearbox manufacturer tel you 50000km and Lexus tel you, for life. Who do you believe in, i believe in  the Gearbox manufacturer, i flushed at 250000km. And i changed the filter.

[Alfalfa]

6 hours ago, Bugster_MR2 said:

According to BG in Norway, this adapter (nr 126) is what they need. But I am not so sure after reading Alfalfas posts. 😛

Which shop did you use, Alfalfa?

The 126 is wrong,  100%.

[Alfalfa]

35 minutes ago, m4rkw said:

Late to this thread but I would definitely not put anything in a transmission other than the manufacturer-recommended lubricant under any circumstances.

See here for wise old mechanic's thoughts on transmission flushes: https://www.agcoauto.com/content/news/p2_articleid/29

Drop the pan, change the filter assembly and replace the fluid - that's a proper service. Flushing may do more harm than good and even if the garage has some kind of warranty on the flushing process, if the unit fails 3k miles later there's no way you'll be able to prove the cause.

Do you mean replace 1/4 off the fluid? Or flush out the rest.

[Mr Vlad]

That link Mark is pure comic. You haven't read this thread properly. There are far too many 'experts' in forums and they get their info from either google or other forums. To repeat myself. I've spoken with a good number of transmission specialists. They agree to change gearbox oil at specific times. Sometimes to use a flushing agent or just to replenish fully by pumping new oil in to get the old oil out. That geezer well I didn't bother reading it as the page was huge and too many cartoon characters. 

Read this thread properly. If you don't want to change all the oil out of your cars gearbox then don't but Do Not tell, warn  imply others not to. Those specialists I've spoken to do top end cars gearbox services and those gearboxes which cist more than four or five of ours cars total. I listen to them as they have the experience. 

[Alfalfa]

18 minutes ago, Mr Vlad said:

That link Mark is pure comic. You haven't read this thread properly. There are far too many 'experts' in forums and they get their info from either google or other forums. To repeat myself. I've spoken with a good number of transmission specialists. They agree to change gearbox oil at specific times. Sometimes to use a flushing agent or just to replenish fully by pumping new oil in to get the old oil out. That geezer well I didn't bother reading it as the page was huge and too many cartoon characters. 

Read this thread properly. If you don't want to change all the oil out of your cars gearbox then don't but Do Not tell, warn  imply others not to. Those specialists I've spoken to do top end cars gearbox services and those gearboxes which cist more than four or five of ours cars total. I listen to them as they have the experience. 

Spot on.

[Bugster_MR2]

Ok. So i spoke directly to BG Norway who which confirms that Alfalfa is right.

Adapter 126 is wrong. They say there is another adapter almost like 126 that can be used. They do not have it in stock.

They do have the three pipe kit Alfalfa shows in his picture, and they offer the workshop to borrow it free of charge.

I am also considering dropping the pan and replacing the filter and whatever oil I can get out (4 liters or so). But I do not like the idea of mixing old OE oil with new Total or Castrol. And I am not going to pay what my local OE vendor wants for the Toyota WS fluid. It is too expensive.

[Texas]

“And Iam not going to pay what my local OE vendor wants for the Toyota WS fluid. It is too expensive.”

can you not get it On-line anywhere for an acceptable price ?

[Bugster_MR2]

Texas, I might. But we are outside EU, and there is VAT and toll + expensive freight due to fuel prices and everything. And my local car parts store needs my money to survive, and they give me good prices.

[Alfalfa]

3 hours ago, Bugster_MR2 said:

Ok. So i spoke directly to BG Norway who which confirms that Alfalfa is right.

Adapter 126 is wrong. They say there is another adapter almost like 126 that can be used. They do not have it in stock.

They do have the three pipe kit Alfalfa shows in his picture, and they offer the workshop to borrow it free of charge.

I am also considering dropping the pan and replacing the filter and whatever oil I can get out (4 liters or so). But I do not like the idea of mixing old OE oil with new Total or Castrol. And I am not going to pay what my local OE vendor wants for the Toyota WS fluid. It is too expensive.

You dont take out 4 litre with the drop pan method, 1-1.5 is more like it.

[Bugster_MR2]

51 minutes ago, Alfalfa said:

You dont take out 4 litre with the drop pan method, 1-1.5 is more like it.

Then I hereby conclude full flush or no change at all. Dropping as little as 1 to 1,5 liters is a waste of time IMHO.

[Alfalfa]

55 minutes ago, Bugster_MR2 said:

Then I hereby conclude full flush or no change at all. Dropping as little as 1 to 1,5 liters is a waste of time IMHO.

Cal me, i maybe can put you in the right direction. 46660175

[Bugster_MR2]

Have not gotten around to change the ATF fluid yet, but look what Marty Motoring just put on Youtube. Interesting. 🙂

 

 

[Bugster_MR2]

On 4/25/2022 at 7:19 AM, Bugster_MR2 said:

Have not gotten around to change the ATF fluid yet, but look what Marty Motoring just put on Youtube. Interesting. 🙂

 

 

Martys box failed soon after he serviced it. I have no idea why, but it scares me.

I sold my IS. Going back to the 1,3l beater to save on the fuel bills.