GSF Value / interest

[F.A.]

I have noticed that the last  few GSF’s that have come up for sale on Auto Trader and the UK Lexus site appear to have sold relatively quickly. The last one which was advertised at Hedge End was taken off with in a couple of days of being advertised.  I remember a year or two ago when I first started looking at the GSF, the same cars were stuck on the used sites for weeks if not months with their prices declining rapidly but stopped around the 40k mark.

It appears that interest in the GSF has grown? Or I guess it could simply be that they have now reached a value people are happy with? 

 

[JonP]

I’d guess the latter. I looked for a deal I liked on a GSF several times but ended up in an RCF  because the dealers I talked to were happy that they didn’t need to discount and the cost to change was a bit too much. 

[F.A.]

31 minutes ago, JonP said:

I’d guess the latter. I looked for a deal I liked on a GSF several times but ended up in an RCF  because the dealers I talked to were happy that they didn’t need to discount and the cost to change was a bit too much. 

Yes, there was no movement on mine as they were confident that they had several buyers lined up. Unfortunately, as these don’t appear too often, I wasn’t willing to call their bluff. 

[JonP]

12 hours ago, F.A. said:

Yes, there was no movement on mine as they were confident that they had several buyers lined up. Unfortunately, as these don’t appear too often, I wasn’t willing to call their bluff. 

Probably a wise decision.

[bernie_the_bolt]

On 7/31/2019 at 6:53 PM, F.A. said:

Yes, there was no movement on mine as they were confident that they had several buyers lined up. Unfortunately, as these don’t appear too often, I wasn’t willing to call their bluff. 

Same here. But also, they knew I was after one as it's the best F car and the LC500 is just not practical for me. Think they will hold their value pretty well.

[Flytvr]

On 8/2/2019 at 12:36 PM, bernie_the_bolt said:

Same here. But also, they knew I was after one as it's the best F car and the LC500 is just not practical for me. Think they will hold their value pretty well.

Why’s it the best F car?

[B1RMA]

I must admit if I were after a four door, four seater car I'd have one. They seem to come equipped with everything as standard too like the TVD if I remember correctly.

Put on a nice aftermarket exhaust that can be adjusted to quiet for those occasional long trips what more could you want, plus you hardly ever see one apart from the odd event.

 

Not sure about the best F car though as I like a coupe.

[F.A.]

8 hours ago, B1RMA said:

I must admit if I were after a four door, four seater car I'd have one. They seem to come equipped with everything as standard too like the TVD if I remember correctly.

Put on a nice aftermarket exhaust that can be adjusted to quiet for those occasional long trips what more could you want, plus you hardly ever see one apart from the odd event.

 

Not sure about the best F car though as I like a coupe.

I guess it’s a matter of personal preference. We have a one year old and a three year old so need a car that can comfortably fit two car seats with their ISOFIX bases, their pram and half the house that needs to accompany us where ever we go. The GS and the RX fit that bill but we always struggled with our IS. I’m only 5ft7 and I couldn’t comfortably sit in front of my daughter in her car seat. 

So for us, the GSF is the best ‘F’ as it suited our needs. 

[bernie_the_bolt]

On 8/3/2019 at 10:10 PM, Flytvr said:

Why’s it the best F car?

For me, it's practicality. I have also spoken to several Lexus sales people that have driven both the RC F and GS F back to back on a track and they reckon the GS is better, but that is their opinion.

[B1RMA]

1 hour ago, bernie_the_bolt said:

For me, it's practicality. I have also spoken to several Lexus sales people that have driven both the RC F and GS F back to back on a track and they reckon the GS is better, but that is their opinion.

Can't for the life of me think why, lets face it neither car is it home on a track so we are really in the realms of road behaviour. 

Maybe the GSF which I think has TVD if driven as a comparison after an RCF without TVD you could perhaps note a difference. It also depends on who was driving it too as someone like Chris Harris can drive and would be experienced enough to tell any difference. I've been doing track days since the mid 80's and with that experience wouldn't like to commit myself to such a statement. But as I don't know the sales people concerned who may well be hardened track day fiends I'll probably file it under sales twaddle for the time being.

[Cactus]

Lets see how long this one in Swindon lasts.

[F.A.]

Yes, this will be interesting. It seems a reasonable price. 

[Cactus]

32 minutes ago, F.A. said:

Yes, this will be interesting. It seems a reasonable price. 

Is removed from autotrader. i take that as sold.

[doog442]

36K for a 2016

Also removed from Lexus approved site before pics even went up.  

 

[F.A.]

Interesting that the photos were on Auto Trader and not their official site. I guess Auto Trader possibly brings in more traffic. 

I wonder if the new owner will pop up on here?!

 

[Killysprint]

Prices and demand for GSF seem to be on the up!!

this last one was 6 months older, ok 5k less miles (and a red interior uuuurrrgggh).....than mine and advertised for £6k more than I paid 

7 months and 5k miles in and I’m really happy with the change from the ISF, which was a Great great car. As with the ISF, I normally get itchy feet within 6 months and start thinking of what’s next. The logical choice after the ISF, which I kept for 2 1/2 years, about a year longer than usual, was after considering all the usual suspects a GSF. 

The GSF is a proper car. Quick (not mental but quick enough), handles and rides well, bank vault build quality, 2wd which means that the steering is uncorrupted by not having to drive the car too, and so far been totally reliable. And service at the local dealer has been faultless.

im lucky I’ve got other more focussed stuff I can drive, but I still get a buzz taking the GSF for a blast up the A696/A68 early on a weekend morning where I run out of talent way before it does!  I’m off on the north coast 500 with my son in a couple of weeks and we’re taking the GSF, rather than one of the other cars, as I’m so convinced of it’s abilities. It is a cracking bit of kit. I know that the competition from the Germans will cover the ground a lot quicker and have more visceral performance (my colleagues RS5 carbon is nuts off the line!!) but I’m convinced that as an overall package the GSF offers more to the driver.

long may the Deserved demand for the cars continue, especially while I’ve still got mine!!! and hopefully depreciation remains at the glacial level I had with ISF......

 

but what next......?????

[08ISF]

I think the GSF is a slow burn and that as the cars become older and more affordable, more and more people will see the attraction of a car that offers this type of performance, with Lexus quality and reliability. New, the car was well received by the motoring press but that wasn't enough to tempt the German fan boys so they only sold 50 or 60, about a third of the ISF sales number. This will keep prices up as demand will start to outstrip supply. My normal strategy is to let someone else pick up the initial depreciation and buy at 2-3 years old, secure in the knowledge that I can run the car for 7-8 years before it can no longer be covered by warranty. I broke this rule with my GSF, buying at 8 months old and 300 mls on the clock, because it was heavily discounted (20k+) and due to the low numbers around I was doubtful about having a choice of  2-3 year olds when the cars reached this age.

It was an awesome car but it's now gone because for all it's good points there are some downsides if you live in an urban environment as I do:

1. No spare wheel. Given that the car has low profile tyres and VERY expensive wheels, the prospect of wrecking a tyre or even a wheel on the potholes and speed bumps that our local councils are so fond of, became very real. Get a puncture , even if the tyre is not wrecked, fill the tyre with the goo that Lexus supply and even if it works you're looking at a new tyre and probably a new pressure sensor because nobody wants to clean out the tyre to repair it. If you can get a new matching tyre quickly.......      Lexus are  not interested in supplying  spare wheels in the UK and even if you could get one there's nowhere to put it as they've filled up the wheel well with TVD electronics. Oh, and the tyres are shallower than most kerb heights so  those beautiful wheels are vulnerable.

2. In an urban environment this type of car is a dinosaur, there is absolutely nowhere you can use even a  fraction of its power. Flooring one of these is a bit like launching a missile, and even if you can find somewhere to give it its head, other road users are simply not aware enough of what is going on around them to  cope with it. I got so frustrated at dribbling along in queues - average speed over my period  of ownership - 22mph!

3. Cost of brakes - £350+ parts cost for 4 pieces of steel plate with some friction material bonded on is nothing short of ridiculous and there is little other choice apart from Lexus parts. Happy to pay what is necessary to maintain the car but I have a deep rooted objection to being shafted.

4. Possible issues with supply of spare parts. This may or may not be a problem but I had to wait 3 weeks for a new windscreen after one was cracked by a stone and I got to thinking, GS's never sold in vast quantities and GSF's sold in tiny quantities so if you need a spare non consumable part are Lexus going to have it or will their bean counters dictate that they only keep a very few spares? If you are unlucky enough to require something that has gone on back order because they don't have enough orders to make it worthwhile having a production run you might wait a long time. This is how the car industry works, they make a certain number of a component, use them up and then order some more but if the numbers are low the supplier won't make some more until they have a decent number ordered. Might be just paranoia on my part  though.

 

I now have an RX450h which suits my driving environment much better, has a spare wheel, goes well enough without being a missile, doesn't eat brakes as retardation is mostly electronic and hopefully sold in enough quantities that spares shouldn't be a problem.

Still think that in the right location the GSF is an awesome tool, just not for me.

[JonP]

Well, I think it comes down to horses for courses, I ran an ISF as my daily driver for about 100k and had 1 puncture in 6 years which was caused by a nail. I’m now running an RCF as my daily, we’ll see how it goes but so far so good. Hit a few potholes but no damage yet  

There is always the possibility of something bad happening, but I think driving a car that puts a smile on my face when I get in it and yet I know is going to work, is worth the risk...

[F.A.]

@08ISF, I completely understand where you are coming from. The GSF is my daily drive and it rarely hits over 30mph on my way to work. However the sound of the V8 on start up and the fact that I’ve waited so long for an ‘F car’ means that I’ve always got a smile on my face every time I drive it.  

I used to get nails in tyres for a past time in my IS250 , so when we purchased the GSF, I opted for the Tyre insurance. I only wish I did  the same when we purchased  the RX!

[Toothy]

If you pay to become a gold member, I believe Lexus dealerships will fix punctures for free. Never had to use it yet, thankfully.

[Flytvr]

On 8/7/2019 at 6:59 PM, B1RMA said:

Can't for the life of me think why, lets face it neither car is it home on a track so we are really in the realms of road behaviour. 

Maybe the GSF which I think has TVD if driven as a comparison after an RCF without TVD you could perhaps note a difference. It also depends on who was driving it too as someone like Chris Harris can drive and would be experienced enough to tell any difference. I've been doing track days since the mid 80's and with that experience wouldn't like to commit myself to such a statement. But as I don't know the sales people concerned who may well be hardened track day fiends I'll probably file it under sales twaddle for the time being.

Agree.

I've driven a few GS-Fs and owned an RCF. On the road I couldn't tell the difference. The only thing I believe the GS-F has over the RC-F is better visibility over the bonnet - oddly making the GS-F feel smaller than an RC-F.

I still cannot fathom why Harris was wild over the GS-F yet indifferent towards the RC-F. Same as Clarkson. Maybe I missed something!

[B1RMA]

Me neither, although once again I watched the Chris Harris video of the RCF on track then on the road before buying the RCF. I tend to agree with his findings on most of the cars I have bought and part of my buying research into every new car I buy is to see if he has done a review.

I am in complete agreement regarding his conclusion that the RCF may grow on you more over time.

[Gsf solihull]

Hi people i bought my jan 18grey  gsf from lex Liverpool in December 18. Brakes will not stop squealing!!! Slight scratches from bird mess it did have gen3 coating done on purchase from Liverpool. I live in Solihull but prefer lex Wolverhampton should I ask them to machine polish or get ceramic coating done by specialist any advice appreciated thanks Shafiq 

[B1RMA]

54 minutes ago, Gsf solihull said:

Hi people i bought my jan 18grey  gsf from lex Liverpool in December 18. Brakes will not stop squealing!!! Slight scratches from bird mess it did have gen3 coating done on purchase from Liverpool. I live in Solihull but prefer lex Wolverhampton should I ask them to machine polish or get ceramic coating done by specialist any advice appreciated thanks Shafiq 

A member Hokeyedwards on here seems to have found some pads that help the squealing. Best find a decent local detailer near you to sort the paintwork they are the best initial route to good paintwork.

[Gsf solihull]

Thanks mate, just want to get super showroom shine