High millage LS600H

[black400]

Hi guys I have come across a LS600H  for sale 350.000 kms,on the clock , body work needs attention,  what attention  I don't know  , can't see it on the pics , is this two much millage to consider,  and would the Battery packs be a worry.

Your thoughts please

[ambermarine]

Martin

Would the same questions arise on a LS400 or a LS430  regardless of the Battery I think this is a workhorse that as been worked through its life already and is likely to throw up issues in the not to distant future.

My advice is steer clear.

[Cotswold Pete]

I would probably steer clear, unless the service history is exemplary.  But with body-work needing attention makes me wonder how loved the car is, or as Martin says just treated like a work-horse until its a bit knackered.

Batteries I assume just slowly die due to age as much has anything else, so for  that reason I would be nervous, in fact nervous of any future electric car when it starts getting to around 10 years old or more due to Battery degrading.

I think in the last few years Battery tech has moved on a bit, but the 600 is using older tech (I assume).

All this makes me wonder what happens when the only cars we can buy are electric, because IMHO  electric cars are as advanced as the Ford Model T was to the first Petrol engined cars.

[MartinLexus]

Surely as time goes buy, replacing Battery packs will become a less expensive process?

[Cotswold Pete]

21 minutes ago, MartinLexus said:

Surely as time goes buy, replacing battery packs will become a less expensive process?

I am not so sure this will be the case, as Battery technology changes rapidly at the mo.

Try buying a OEM grade Battery for 10 year old mobile phone or DSLR, and you are more than likely to end up buying a less robust Chinese copy which keeps it charge for as long as it takes a cup of tea to cool down. 

I wonder if at some point we we start to see independent Battery specialists popping up to maintain the Pruis or 600 as a classic car??

[royoftherovers]

1 hour ago, Cotswold Pete said:

I am not so sure this will be the case, as battery technology changes rapidly at the mo.

Try buying a OEM grade battery for 10 year old mobile phone or DSLR, and you are more than likely to end up buying a less robust Chinese copy which keeps it charge for as long as it takes a cup of tea to cool down. 

I wonder if at some point we we start to see independent battery specialists popping up to maintain the Pruis or 600 as a classic car??

Is Richard of Hybrid Battery Solutions the sort of Indie you had in mind Pete?

[MartinLexus]

17 minutes ago, Cotswold Pete said:

I am not so sure this will be the case, as battery technology changes rapidly at the mo.

Try buying a OEM grade battery for 10 year old mobile phone or DSLR, and you are more than likely to end up buying a less robust Chinese copy which keeps it charge for as long as it takes a cup of tea to cool down. 

I wonder if at some point we we start to see independent battery specialists popping up to maintain the Pruis or 600 as a classic car??

Yes - good point 👍

[black400]

Thanks guys on closer inspection,  the alloys are ver bad , the interior  is dirty, steering wheel  leather worn , my just give it a miss .

[cruisermark]

HI Martin

I saw it too - the interior and leather are very dirty - it would be very difficult to bring it back a good standard -

[black400]

You in Ireland Cruisermark?

[Tulpen]

The only way I'd want a car with 350,000 kms (220,000 miles) on the clock is if I'd put a hefty chunk of the kms on there...……..even if it is a Lexus.

[cruisermark]

4 hours ago, black400 said:

You in Ireland Cruisermark?

Hi

No - just saw it on the internet

I also saw that very nice looking Green Mark 4 for sale which had a UK plate amongst others for sale

[black400]

Ok , I might ring them just see what was used for , taxi ?

[black400]

It's still for sale but not for me, there is one with over 450 kms on the same site 😂🙄🤔

[lexus707]

If you talk to Lexus they say they haven't changed Hybrid batteries. What they don't say though is that the components running the Hybrid systems are prone to failure, I had a GS 450H and the inverter DC/AC device failed. At first Lexus said they couldn't diagnose the fault because the Hybrid transmission ECU had failed and needed replacing; after this was done they said they were now able to tell the Inverter had failed. When asked to refit the old ECU they said this was not possible as it had now been coded to that car.

The combination of the ECU and the Inverter was a very expensive learning curve BEWARE of Hybrids stick to the large normally aspirated LS's

[Cotswold Pete]

22 hours ago, lexus707 said:

 very expensive learning curve BEWARE of Hybrids stick to the large normally aspirated LS's

I have heard that an electric car will be simpler to maintain as it has fewer moving parts  than a fossil fuel burner.  But it sounds like hybrid or pure electric you need DC/AC convertors and if these bits of kit are going to fail then it might be simpler to get hybrid/pure electric car on the road, but it is going to be a case of $$$$.

The one thing about good old fashioned tech is that you can pootle about with it (in most cases) at a reasonable cost to coax some movement.

Or is that just that at the moment anything hybrid is $$$$ as it is all new. 

I wonder what ScrapHeap challenge would look like in 50 years time, more soldering irons than welding rigs!