15 years later. LS430 is still the best used luxury car...

PJD · May 11, 2018

PJD · May 11, 2018

I knew the wind resistance was good, - didn't realise it was that good...

royoftherovers · May 11, 2018

I really enjoyed watching that presentation. A superb vehicle with an outstandingly low drag coefficient.

My GS 450H`S Grandfather ?

cruisermark · May 11, 2018

Good video and excellent camera quality

The-Acre · May 11, 2018

Now you've done it, I want another one!

cruisermark · May 11, 2018

Buy your old one back!

The-Acre · May 11, 2018

6 minutes ago, cruisermark said:

Buy your old one back!

I can't, it's 50% more than I sold it for! If, and it is a big if, I ever got another one, it would be a late facelift. I need to be content with my GS, it's a lovely car in immaculate condition so I need to stop thinking about alternatives.....😀

cruisermark · May 11, 2018

30 minutes ago, The-Acre said:

I can't, it's 50% more than I sold it for! If, and it is a big if, I ever got another one, it would be a late facelift. I need to be content with my GS, it's a lovely car in immaculate condition so I need to stop thinking about alternatives.....😀

Well i've stopped thinking about alternatives since i had the 430 lol!

Chris Skelton · May 11, 2018

I NEARLY pressed the button on a £3500 LS 400 Ser 4 this week......7 years after I sold my last one. (It was reduced drastically).

But.....I didn't.

There's something about them, even though I never was enamoured of the shape.

But the way roads are getting, I'm leaning towards a 4 X 4......

dendonc · May 12, 2018

8 hours ago, Chris Skelton said:

But the way roads are getting, I'm leaning towards a 4 X 4......

The way the roads 'have got' in Brent they'll be going to shop in half tracks soon.

DaKa · May 12, 2018

The LS430 is indeed a great value car and old ones are holding their value well at the moment.

Not wishing to go off topic here, but considering the last post from Denis, it's not as if we don't pay enough tax for the roads.

We pay tax on our purchase, having paid tax on our salary to be able to make a purchase, then we pay road tax annually plus massive tax on the petrol we buy to fuel our vehicles plus MOT tax.

Our grandchildren will find themselves buying petrol on the black market or having to drive their V8s in China, India or some other polluting country without 'green' taxes.

If they put the car tax on petrol the value of bigger engine cars would go up not down as more people would want to own them as Sunday driver.

By my rough calculations, if you do 5,000 miles p.a. and they added 10p tax to a litre of petrol then you would pay about £100 extra. My current car tax is circa £300+ and post 2006 cars are £600+. Having 3 cars with a combine mileage of 10,000 (strangely, I can only drive one at a time!) I'm paying nearly £1,000 p.a. and P.S. They reckon on there being 3.2 million un-taxed cars on UK roads.

Seemingly car tax on petrol wasn't introduced as it would be unfair on high mileage users - but isn't it them causing the pollution and damaging the roads 'thrashing' about in 1 - 1.4 litre hatchbacks?

Got that off my chest... that feels better!

Newbie1 · May 12, 2018

I drive an LS400 because the roads are so bad!

steve2006 · May 12, 2018

After multiple potholes appeared on my estate roads I emailed the local authority giving details of where they were located and included a map.

I told them they had a duty of care to ensure the roads were maintained in a safe condition and gave them notice that if repairs were not carried out within a reasonable time ( I stated 2 weeks) I would hold them totally liable for any damage to my vehicle as a result of these potholes.

They were all repaired within a week!

Malc · May 12, 2018

41 minutes ago, steve2006 said:

and included a map

might of course have also co-incided where the CEO of the Council lives

Malc

Chris Skelton · May 12, 2018

Damien! How can you even THINK that?!!! Petrol has circa 80% of its cost as tax already! There's Fuel tax, which is then Vat-taxed.....

If all the money raised from fuel alone was spent ON roads they'd be gold plated! A lot of it is used to prop up the rest (NHS....) already!

Saying'it's only an extra £100' when wages in real term have dropped 20% since 2010 in 'real terms'. Food Banks and children getting free meals does not equal 'The World's 5th largest economy' to me.

The problem is that City roads are the responsibility of the City concerned. Meanwhil, the lovely Tories have drastically cut cities' funding. Something has to give.

Denis. Half-track? Citroen made one in 40s....Citroen Kegresse. It was driven accross the Sahara! Just right for London streets?

The-Acre · May 12, 2018

2 hours ago, steve2006 said:

After multiple potholes appeared on my estate roads I emailed the local authority giving details of where they were located and included a map.

I told them they had a duty of care to ensure the roads were maintained in a safe condition and gave them notice that if repairs were not carried out within a reasonable time ( I stated 2 weeks) I would hold them totally liable for any damage to my vehicle as a result of these potholes.

They were all repaired within a week!

I did the same thing, pointing out that cars were mounting the pavement where schoolchildren walk to avoid the massive pothole. All repaired within 3 days.

DaKa · May 12, 2018

Thankfully this is a car forum and not a political one and we all want what's best for our cars (and kids) 😉

It took me more than 3 months and online submission of complaints and photos to get some serious potholes in my neighbourhood fixed - that's Essex CC for you though!

Back to cars - there is nothing to top the luxury second hand car market compared to LS Lexus as alternatives although the same price (8 series BMW, some Jaguars) when they go wrong it really is a trip to the Bank.

ambermarine · May 12, 2018

It is of no surprise to me that the LS is the best luxury sedan ever built, that was the directive of the President of Toyota in 1983 when the Lexus plan was launched and I do not agree it is the 430, that had too many flaws and was developed on a rushed schedule to replace the 400 before development of the 460 could start.

The mark 4 was the ultimate never to be bettered overall by any Lexus since in terms of build quality and development it is those qualities that still turns heads to this day twenty years on.

dendonc · May 12, 2018

Is my 1999 a Mark 4?

royoftherovers · May 12, 2018

5 hours ago, steve2006 said:

After multiple potholes appeared on my estate roads I emailed the local authority giving details of where they were located and included a map.

I told them they had a duty of care to ensure the roads were maintained in a safe condition and gave them notice that if repairs were not carried out within a reasonable time ( I stated 2 weeks) I would hold them totally liable for any damage to my vehicle as a result of these potholes.

They were all repaired within a week!

Well said Steve.Now if all motorists did the same...............

cruisermark · May 12, 2018

15 minutes ago, dendonc said:

Is my 1999 a Mark 4?

Yes

BigBoomer · May 13, 2018

https://www.gov.uk/report-pothole

If it's on an A road or Motorway then report to the Highways Agency.

My 430 handles most potholes as well as any 4x4 and better than the crappy softroaders.

nickd · May 14, 2018

Thanks for posting that. So it has cooled seats in the rear too? Yesterday I sat in the back on a journey Whitby to Sheffield. As my wife was driving I had plenty of leg room, with heated seat on and my chair reclined. The only time as an adult I've fallen asleep in the back of a car.

The-Acre · May 14, 2018

45 minutes ago, nickd said:

Thanks for posting that. So it has cooled seats in the rear too? Yesterday I sat in the back on a journey Whitby to Sheffield. As my wife was driving I had plenty of leg room, with heated seat on and my chair reclined. The only time as an adult I've fallen asleep in the back of a car.

Neither of mine had cooled rear seats.