Hopefully stop the thieving B******S

65mike · April 9, 2018

Hi all.

After reading about the car stealing racket that is going on now have decided to get one off theses https://www.fonefunshop.com/car-keyless-entry-fob-signal-blocker-genuine-faraday-bag-block-theft.html other members have seen them on amazon but found them on the above website so have ordered 2 off them thought long and hard about this and decided why not anything to stop the thieving B******s taking or trying to take my pride and joy

I was reading in the daily paper that someone recommended a Ghost immobiliser system sounds good https://autowatch.co.uk alas it does not cover the early Lexus cars the is range is from 2014 and GS range from 2012 sounded like a good idea but alas not for any off the is250 cars or the isF cars.

Looks like the steering lock that yellow thing will be dusted off when i go away or park in places aim not used too.

65mike

Note: i have no interests in either mentioned above companies just seen them on the web and passed the info on.

Stuno1 · April 9, 2018

Madness. Is this because they somehow get the car code from the fob?

is200 Newbie · April 9, 2018

1 hour ago, 65mike said:

Looks like the steering lock that yellow thing will be dusted off when i go away or park in places aim not used too

I must admit I still use the steering lock - my justification for this is that it will hinder the thief (they will probably manage to remove it anyway) but it will not make it easy and during this time I presume the alarm will be going off so it will raise awareness....

normski2 · April 9, 2018

If you are members of your local home watch group you can also get them via the police. Well, ours does.

Linas.P · April 10, 2018

The owners of IS mk2 no need to worry, ordinary Lexus are least popular cars for thieves (maybe IS, RC, GS-F on order) furthermore mk2 is now old and low value as well. Somehow cannot imagine any thieve being interested and risking for such car.

jumbojake · April 13, 2018

I've just got a small biscuit tin in a draw.. .put my keys in that, does the same job.

sorcerer · April 13, 2018

33 minutes ago, jumbojake said:

I've just got a small biscuit tin in a draw.. .put my keys in that, does the same job.

I think you'll find that it doesn't. My understanding is that a Faraday Cage is made up of an interlocking mesh rather than sheet metal, but I may be wrong on that. Anyway, here's someone who has tried it and found that a tin doesn't work. In the same situation, my Faraday pouch stops the key being 'seen' by the car:

sorcerer · April 13, 2018

On 09/04/2018 at 5:00 PM, Stuno1 said:

Madness. Is this because they somehow get the car code from the fob?

Sort of.

In 'Keyless Entry/Smart Start' cars, rather than having to press a button on the fob to unlock the doors, the fob constantly transmits a signal. Even at, say, 3am when you're all tucked up in bed fast asleep, the fob is still transmitting its signal. The bad guys have a very sensitive receiver so that they can stand next to your front door and pick up that signal, which they then relay to the car. The car detects the signal and flags 'Key present' to the security systems and other ECUs, so it behaves exactly as if the key was there in the car and it can be driven away - and it'll keep going, perhaps for hundreds of miles if there's enough fuel, until they turn off the engine, at which time the car will flag 'Key not present' when they try to restart it again.

NemesisUK · April 13, 2018

1 hour ago, sorcerer said:

I think you'll find that it doesn't. My understanding is that a Faraday Cage is made up of an interlocking mesh rather than sheet metal, but I may be wrong on that. Anyway, here's someone who has tried it and found that a tin doesn't work. In the same situation, my Faraday Pouch stops the key being 'seen' by the car:

Curious!

I just did a quick experiment.

1. Heavy steel cash box, loosely closed lid - car unlocks as normal.

2. Light tin box tightly closed - car unlocks as normal.

3. Wrapped key fob in kitchen foil - car refused to unlock

4. Same box as in #2 but with kitchen foil loosely formed around the inside base and sides, lid as before with no foil - car refused to unlock

So the thin layer of foil blocks the transmission whereas the heavy steel and light gauge tin does not. But just place a layer of foil in the bottom of the tin and no transmission.

65mike · April 13, 2018

Hi all

Well i got my Faraday pouch for the keys works fine 2 pockets one blocks signal so car cannot be opened and the other won you use to put keyfob in so you can open doors and start car simple as that.

Must say i never wanted keyless entry used to using buttons on key fob prefer it that way and still do this about 95% off the time it's no effert to just push a key fob button to me.

65mike.

is200 Newbie · April 13, 2018

6 hours ago, 65mike said:

Hi all

Well i got my faraday pouch for the keys works fine 2 pockets one blocks signal so car cannot be opened and the other won you use to put keyfob in so you can open doors and start car simple as that.

Must say i never wanted keyless entry used to using buttons on key fob prefer it that way and still do this about 95% off the time it's no effert to just push a key fob button to me.

65mike.

What did you use, where bought from ..... any link

sorcerer · April 13, 2018

49 minutes ago, is200 Newbie said:

What did you use, where bought from ..... any link

Plenty on eBay and amazon, this being just one of them. Just search for Faraday pouch or Faraday bag.

65mike · April 14, 2018

Hi all.

is200 newbie i used these people https://www.fonefunshop.com/car-keyless-entry-fob-signal-blocker-genuine-faraday-bag-block-theft.html?category_id=2887 ordered it on monday evening and got it wednesday morning it does exactly what it says well pleased with it.

Seem a good place and fast too. ( i do not have anything to do with the above establishment just found them efficient and passed on my thoughts nothing more )

65mike

normski2 · May 23, 2018

Meant to put these pics up a while back ... completely forgot. Must be an age thing!

I've found these pouches work really well. You do need to ensure you place the fob within the inner special fabric pocket.

If you don't it does not work ... that may be why some have said they found the pouch ineffective.

Picture 1. Key in full view to the car as usual

Picture 2. Key placed within inner compartment

Picture 3. First you see me ... now you don't!

May 23, 2018

I have been using these for both our Lexus's for a while now and they work well,but don't forget to buy some for your spare keys as well or you are defeating the object.

Verbout · May 23, 2018

I don’t have a Battery in my spare, the Battery is still in its blister pack in the key safe.

ahmedali44 · June 11, 2018

it's good investment as a guy on my road had his range rover stolen. It's quite cheap.

65mike · July 21, 2018

Hi all.

Up date to my original post the pouch has given up the ghost packed up working, I had my keys in the pouch when i went to put rubbish out on Thursday morning and sore the light under the door mirror come on thought that's strange so put hand on door handle and door opened, must have put key in wrong compartment had a look no it's stopped protecting the key had 3 months and finished.

Be aware these do not last for ever.

65mike

Texas · July 21, 2018

Strange...can't see that there is anything that could 'wear out' so to speak and stop it from functioning!

paul m.

sorcerer · July 21, 2018

I had a similar experience but a bit of experimentation showed that I hadn't closed the pouch properly and I'm sure yours will be the same. Unless the mesh has been physically torn or damaged then it's impossible for it to just 'give up' working.

Although you can't see them, radio waves at this wavelength act like physical things and as long as the mesh bag isn't damaged then it still physically keeps the radio waves trapped in there.

65mike · July 21, 2018

Hi all

Tried all the things like making sure pouch was closed but reading reviews on Halfords site and amazon it does happen https://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/B076KZF645/ref=acr_search_hist_1?ie=UTF8&filterByStar=one_star&showViewpoints=0

It seems they last a while and then just stop working.

65mike

GogCymru · August 18, 2018

I'm no expert but I've seen videos on youtube with kill switches to fuel pump. Hidden anywhere inside the cab. The reason for the fuel pump is that you'd need the power for the alarms, keyless entry etc.

jdanielca · August 19, 2018

Is there not a way to disable the key from transmitting? I heard hold the lock button and press unlock twice? Is there not a way to disable keyless entry? or disable the fob from transmitting?

normski2 · August 19, 2018

My pouches are still working perfectly, I’m glad to report.

rayaans · August 19, 2018

21 minutes ago, jdanielca said:

Is there not a way to disable the key from transmitting? I heard hold the lock button and press unlock twice? Is there not a way to disable keyless entry? or disable the fob from transmitting?

Yes you can, not entirely sure how but it is in the manual