Comparison....

JonP · March 29, 2018

All this talk about buying an RC-F got my fingers twitching a little. Maybe I'm wrong, but looking at what's out there it seems like the GS-Fs are better value than the RC-Fs at the moment?

Or am I misjudging the market?

March 29, 2018

I think you're correct - you get more kit for your money. I guess the main driver is 2 door or 3 door looks.

Stuno1 · March 29, 2018

Gsf isn’t on my radar, it’s too big and less interesting looking in my opinion. Is it even heavier than the rcf as well?

FTBBCVoodoo · March 29, 2018

I think the GSF comes with the TV Diff as standard and also has a Head Up Display which means you will feel like an F16 pilot while driving.

For me it would depend on how many doors you need. With 2 kids I need a saloon so GSF would win as default.

If kids weren't an issue it would probably be an orange Carbon edition RCF :-)

JonP · March 29, 2018

2 hours ago, FTBBCVoodoo said:

I think the GSF comes with the TV Diff as standard and also has a Head Up Display which means you will feel like an F16 pilot while driving.

For me it would depend on how many doors you need. With 2 kids I need a saloon so GSF would win as default.

If kids weren't an issue it would probably be an orange Carbon edition RCF :-)

If I came home with an orange car I think my wife would disown me.....

JonP · March 29, 2018

Now a slightly more tasteful silver carbon might be a different kettle of fish....

FTBBCVoodoo · March 29, 2018

22 minutes ago, JonP said:

If I came home with an orange car I think my wife would disown me.....

Well according to Netflix.... Orange is the new Black.

Mattmech · March 29, 2018

Would be a gsf for me too, no room for the kids in the back of an rcf with me driving.

the more I look at the gsf the more it grows on me. Really like them, be e few years before I change though

Stuno1 · March 29, 2018

My wife literally just said she likes the orange rcf! You can definitely own an rcf with a child or two if the wife is short. Granted mine will be a second car but the rear is big and so is the boot.

emjay82 · March 29, 2018

Would be the GSF for me, if and when. @Stuno1.... agree that the RCF is fine for older kids, might be a pain in and out for those with young kids in child seats....

mrfunex · March 30, 2018

15 hours ago, Stuno1 said:

Gsf isn’t on my radar, it’s too big and less interesting looking in my opinion. Is it even heavier than the rcf as well?

Theres almost nothing in it, weight-wise. 20-50kg depending on where you get your information. The RCF is the lighter of the two, but considering it’s a smaller car, has two doors less, doesn’t have TVD as standard; I wonder where that weight is...

I found it laughable that, compared to the M5, the GSF was slated due to its weight, yet the M5 was nearly 200kg heavier as I recall!

Big Rat · March 30, 2018

@mrfunexYes usual journalists twaddle, when Harris did the Welsh thing with Gsf and the M5 Jahre edition the Gsf was the better everyday car........ size it seems is everything

🐀

JonP · March 30, 2018

1 hour ago, mrfunex said:

Theres almost nothing in it, weight-wise. 20-50kg depending on where you get your information. The RCF is the lighter of the two, but considering it’s a smaller car, has two doors less, doesn’t have TVD as standard; I wonder where that weight is...

I found it laughable that, compared to the M5, the GSF was slated due to its weight, yet the M5 was nearly 200kg heavier as I recall!

The rcf has the middle structure from the sc, it’s heavy, but strong. Not necessarily a bad thing to have a really robust passenger cell, at least imho.

Big Rat · March 30, 2018

@JonPAnd fitting a Quicksilver system has saved just under 19kg over the OEM...... mind you with the cooked breakfasts and multiple coffees Mrs Rat and I had at the Sea Front this morning would have negated any weight savings....

Big Full Rat

March 30, 2018

Isn't the middle from is250 mk 2 cabrio?
@Big Rat after hefting the stock pipes onto my racking - thinking it's 15 - 19kg per side!

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ColinBarber · March 30, 2018

58 minutes ago, Comedian said:

Isn't the middle from is250 mk 2 cabrio?

Yes, my understanding is a GS front end, IS C middle, and current IS back. I don't think the IS C middle was a derivative of the SC430, they modified the standard series II IS chassis.

Flytvr · March 30, 2018

Love the GSF.

By FAR the prettiest front end of any F (excluding the daddy)

I was admiring Blue’s GS-F just this morning!

Mark G · March 30, 2018

Weight wise the difference is next to nothing, the Gsf comes with more kit as standard but its a later car, I think it comes down to which car you prefer or suits your needs, both great cars.

JonP · March 30, 2018

2 hours ago, ColinBarber said:

Yes, my understanding is a GS front end, IS C middle, and current IS back. I don't think the IS C middle was a derivative of the SC430, they modified the standard series II IS chassis.

Ok, obviously I was wrong there, though I’m sure I read it came from the sc. Still, I guess it is more evidence of that fundamental truth that all F cars are really just rebadged IS 250 d’s

Chafford1 · March 30, 2018

Unfortunately no more new GSFs available for order. Lexus UK has confirmed production of the GS for Europe finishes end April. A few nice used GSFs on Carwow though.

ColinBarber · March 30, 2018

1 minute ago, JonP said:

Ok, obviously I was wrong there, though I’m sure I read it came from the sc. Still, I guess it is more evidence of that fundamental truth that all F cars are really just rebadged IS 250 d’s

IS-F and RC F maybe, not the GS F

Mark G · March 30, 2018

1 hour ago, Chafford1 said:

Unfortunately no more new GSFs available for order. Lexus UK has confirmed production of the GS for Europe finishes end April. A few nice used GSFs on Carwow though.

Really?????? Is there a replacement on the way?

Chafford1 · March 30, 2018

16 minutes ago, Mark G said:

Really?????? Is there a replacement on the way?

Direct message from Lexus UK on Twitter confirming Dutch article stating GS production for Europe finishing end April. I've seen nothing on a replacement for the GSF when the new ES is launched.