Tyre Upgrade Advice

[Arqum]

Need some help and advice gents. So I've had enough of my OEM Bridgestones and wanted to change to the Michelin PS4s tyres all round. I thought I might as well upgrade the sizes from OEM to 245/35/19 fronts and 275/30/19 rears. Got to Costco today after ordering them a few days ago only to be told they refuse to fit them as the are not the manufactures recommended size and it will invalidate your insurance.

1st I've heard something like this as I'm sticking to the correct load and speed rating.

Any advice please? You guys who have upgraded the size told your insurance company?

[emjay82]

When I got my isf the previous owner had the larger tyres fitted. Worried it would invalidate my insurance I called Admiral. They marked it down as non standard wheels or something similar and charged me £20. Maybe Costco panic about being held liable in the event of an accident, seems a bit OTT. Maybe @Rusty CrobarCan help,  after making the change to wider tyres himself. 

[Arqum]

Yeah it would be interesting to hear what others have experienced. 

[kieron1977]

Hi. I had the wider size fitted at costco, he just said to Me did You know they are not standard size and i said yes and that a lot of people are running those sizes. He said ok no problem. Once fitted he said they fit even better than the standard size. 

[Arqum]

Which Costco did you go to?

[kieron1977]

Sunbury sw london 

[Arqum]

I spoke to Chingford and Wembley. Both said the same thing. We will not fit them.

[Arqum]

Just called Sunbury and they have said the same. They will not fit anything other than the recommended size by the manufacturer 

[FTBBCVoodoo]

I have been running the wider size tyres for a year now (now on second set).

My friend works for kwikfit and gets them for me at trade price and fits them for free :-)

He has no concerns over them no fitting.  It would be a different matter if I wanted to run stretched tyres like the VW boys love to do :-(

And no issues with insurance either.  As long as tyres match or exceed load and speed rating of original tyre spec then it was ok with them.

[kieron1977]

Just reading on the forums in the us. Seems like a guy sued costco after he had an accident and he blamed them for fitting wong size tyres and won the claim.

Since then they only fit standard tyres sizes. Guess i just got lucky 

http://forum.expeditionportal.com/archive/index.php/t-41207.html

[Guest]

In the motorbike world I have always found tyre manufacturers very helpful, they usually have a technical help line that isn't used much. Phone up relevant company if they have a UK office and ask them for advice. Perhaps have a mobile fitter come to your house and fit to loose wheels? Show him an email from the tyre manufacturer saying it's ok and also keep said email. It would also be wise to tell the insurance company they can refuse a claim if the modification was shown to be a causal factor int he accident. With tyres that is going to be easy to do even if not necessarily true. 

I've also spoken at length before to an engineer at NGK - I called up with a question and he phoned me later and explained everything I wanted to know and seemed delighted to do so. 

 

Michelin: http://www.michelin.co.uk/contact

[Arqum]

I have contacted Michelin and they advise that the factory fitted tyre sizes are the only ones listed for the ISF

[Guest]

Of course. You need to ask the right non-model specific question. Which of your tyres can I fit to a (insert size) rim with load rating of (x)

 

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[Arqum]

here is the statement from Costco T&C's:

http://www.costco.co.uk/view/content/tyreDisclaimer

STANDARD TYRE INSTALLATION

Costco will only install tyres authorised for a specific vehicle. If you are unsure if your purchase is an authorised fitment, please contact your local Costco tyre centre for assistance.

[Arqum]

8 minutes ago, Comedian said:

Of course. You need to ask the right non-model specific question. Which of your tyres can I fit to a (insert size) rim with load rating of (x)

 

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They still ask make and model of car......

[Guest]

Ah, sorry then. Maybe things have changed.

 

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[Rusty Crobar]

I run wider tyres on wider wheels, told the insurance company about the wheels but not tyres per se. 

As comedian says a claim would only be refused if the accident was directly caused by the tyres, which would only really happen if they were below thelegal limit. It's highly unlikely that anyone would ever check your tyre size, especially if you are on standard rims. Frankly insurance companies are more focused on fraudsters and drink drivers, not lexus drivers!

 

[Guest]

My wife bumped a car in the car park needing a new wing. Insurance denied payment due to having alloy wheels (dealer option) rather than steel. I called up and said we agreed to mods to 'best of our knowledge' as far as we knew they were standard. (It was a pre-reg car) and they alloys were not a factor in accident and wheels were not damaged or being claimed for. They paid out, listed alloys on policy for no extra charge. It's important to be in the right so you can fight them. If you're right you will win, if you're wrong you won't.

 

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[Arqum]

Answers seems to lean towards telling the insurance about the increase in tyre size. It will be classified as a mod. Costco are by far the cheapest for tyres fitted but they refuse to fit.

[kieron1977]

If they are over £100 cheaper per set ill get them from costco and get a local shop to fit them. Normal charge is £1 per inch so would be £76. 

Out of interest how much are they at costco?

[Arqum]

Sizes I want after discount I have been quoted £800 fitted all round.

[kieron1977]

Just had little Look, this site seems to be the cheapest i have found so far coming in at £780 delivered. 

https://www.tyres-guru.co.uk/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?dsco=320&typ=R-339148&partner=1&ID=psm_rdg_uk_tyrereviews&Country=GUK

https://www.tyres-guru.co.uk/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?dsco=320&typ=R-339172&partner=1&ID=psm_rdg_uk_tyrereviews&Country=GUK

 

 

 

[Arqum]

That's not fitted though...

[kieron1977]

No so fitted would be £856 if you took them to tyre fitter. 

[Arqum]

Going with a local shop who have matched Costco and come in cheaper.