Spacesaver.

[Stompe]

Will the spacesaver spare, fit in the boot with no problem?

Thanks in Anticipation.

[scudney]

For what car if I may ask as you haven't mentioned it

[Stompe]

Lol sorry, Lexus ct200h premier 2013.

[Wass]

It depends upon what you define as "problem". Can you access the space saver with a full boot without turning everything out of the boot? ....No. Can you fit the space saver without any other modifications?.... No. Can you retain the goo pump and goo can kit along with its expanded polystyrene holder?.... No. Must you buy a special new expanded polystyrene moulding along with a special tyre retaining device and a new boot board?.... No. ( you can if you want to spend a lot of money but some resourceful people have adopted other home made options which are detailed on this forum and look very smart) Must you buy a lexus space saver?... No, you can buy a space saver from a number of Toyota models which include prius from 2004 to date Just in case you have any doubts, you are looking for wheels which have a 5off M12x15mm stud configuration on a 100mm pitch circle diameter, 54.1 mm centre bore, with 45 mm offset. So any prius space saver from the last decade will do the job. ONLY look out for perished tyres in case you decide to buy an old space saver.

[Dim Tim]

Hi Stompe, As Wass has said, "no" but there are mitigating options.

I have a 2011 CT Premier and ot a spacesaver from Fleabay for £60. It fits under the underfloor boot storage but leaves the storage tray elevated by about 50mm at the rear end. I intend to cut the tray on each sode and rear leaving the front uncut. Then bend the rear top and bottom to overlap by the 50mm and then fix (pop-rivet ?) together again. That will make the bottom of the tray at an angle matching the spare wheel.

In my case, the goo and compressor, jack etc still fits in/around the spare with room to spare. I haven't tried the spare on the vehicle yet, thats the next job.

Good luck.

Edited on 04/11/15 to add :-

Hmmm! Just tried the wheel on the car and it doesn't fit. Might have something to do with the amount it interferes with the boot floor.

[Stompe]

Thanks guys, really helpful answers there. I currently have a Toyota Auris Excel hybrid with a spacesaver. From what I can see the stud pattern is the same for the Lexus CT200h premier that I am hoping to change to. It seems from your comments that it will be the same problem I had with the Auris that it does not go flat with the boot floor. I have heard many stories about the gunk that it is in most cases useless and tyre dealers are loath to replace the tyre because of the mess. It looks like it will be calling out the third emergency service if I am unfortunate enough to have a flat. But thanks for all your replies, it is much appreciated.

Hopefully if the Ct measures up I can contribute to this site for other people.

Stompe

[Steverally]

Stompe. I hate the bottles of gunk for no doubt the same reasons you do. Having just had a puncture two days ago in my IS, I was fortunate to get to the tyre dealer with plenty of air still in the tyre and he was then able to repair the tyre, a £15 fix. But I had already purchased a space saver and a Holts tyre weld can. I will never use the Lexus gunk, its too expensive to replace and will use the Holts can only when I deem that the tyre treads are nearing minimum, such that a new tyre is inevitable. Holts cans retail at Halfords for around £10.

[Stompe]

Hi Steve

I just don't get the manufacturers reasoning on the gunk issue, All i can really think is that its cost, but then, ive had the opinion that accountants build cars now, Sadly.

[RayKhan]

I too have just bought a CT which doesnt have a spare.

My GS300 I had converted to LPG and used the space for the spare for the gas tank. Still have a GS wheel if anyone needs one.

On average its 120,000 miles before you get a puncture no I know that is road dependent etc but its a lot of miles to worry about carrying a spare

[Wass]

I too have just bought a CT which doesnt have a spare.

My GS300 I had converted to LPG and used the space for the spare for the gas tank. Still have a GS wheel if anyone needs one.

On average its 120,000 miles before you get a puncture no I know that is road dependent etc but its a lot of miles to worry about carrying a spare

I have never worried about carry a spare but 120,000 miles seems to be a lot of miles to worry about not carrying a spare. It's down to preference isn't it?

[zippyone]

Hi Stompe, Dim Tim,

Wass has covered about everything, I wrote an article on 29/07/13, "New Kid on the Block," with pictures and cost breakdown. There's nothing to cut, the tray and goo can kit, along with it's expanded polystyrene holder, can be stored in your garage, as I did mine. There's also a shelf life of about 18 months, two tears on the goo, I believe. I have seen other solutions on the site also.

For my IS, I just bought a spacesaver and bag, I keep them in the boot.

Regards.

Michael.

[rhosneigr]

What is the difference between using a Holts repair can and the Lexus one supplied with the car? How do the emergency service deal with the situation when called out?

[Steverally]

John, (rhosneigr).

In my previous post I was indicating holts do a similar product to lexus for a very reduced cost £10 v £160+.

I would only consider using the holts product in preference to the Lexus one if it was a get me home situation AND the tyre was down to about 2mm of tread, thus knowing a new tyre was going to be purchased.

I certainly would not use it if I was going to call, AA/RAC as they can effect a temporary repair with a plug device.

Steve

[rhosneigr]

Thanks for your reply Steve. I don't quite understand your middle paragraph, are you saying if there is a reasonable tread left on the tyre you would use the Lexus kit? From previous topics on this subject it would seem that the tyre is rendered useless after using the Lexus kit also. Good to know that the AA/RACare able to plug the tyre if feasable.

[ColinBarber]

They don't damage the tyre or wheel, it can be washed away with water.

[Steverally]

John,

I agree with Colin, but I've heard more often that tyre fitters argue that once 'gunk' has been used in tyres they want to sell new rather than repair.

Regards my middle paragraph - if I have a puncture I'd use the space saver I purchased separately. If it was pouring with rain and the tyre had 2mm or less tread left I'd use my holts gunk knowing that I'll be buying a new tyre. (by the way got a puncture last week, about 5mm tread left, luckily spotted and got to repairers before having to resort to either of above - tyre was repaired - cost £15)

[rhosneigr]

Steve.

Should have read post 7 again.

[adnewton]

There have been numerous threads on this subject if you search for Space saver - but yes, space saver does fit, however, I have to buy new foam storage tray £50 & new boot carpet ( thinner ) £80. Wheel lockdown bolt also cost £5.

Looks perfect also. Only problem is where to store your jack & tools. I have wedged them in foam tray. Bespoke jack kit tray costs £130 - extortionate!

[Dim Tim]

I bought a spacesaver wheel from an eBay seller for £68-00.

It fits in the bootfloor recess but leaves the rear (relative to the car) edge of the underfloor tray about four inches too high and of course the floor panel does not close.

So, I cut about midway in the height across the rear of the tray and then diagonally from that cut to the bottom front corner of each side. Trimmed some of the thin webs off the bottom and pushed the bottom of the tray up inside the top edge. Using some black pop-rivets and washers (must use washers to prevent rivets just puling through the plastic) to attach the bottom to the top.

A little hot air paint stripper heat gun applied enabled the plastic to achieve the curve at the back of the tray. Also, cutting the back of the box down allowed the front to drop slightly. Again, a little heat from the hot air gun and that allowed the bottom to bow upwards by anout a quarter of an inch. Perferct.

The tray is now about 7inches deep at the front and 3inches deep at the rear.

I have wrapped the jack and wheelbrace up in some leather I had knocking around and used some velcro tape to tie tight (stops rattle) and fits around the spare. A bolt and disc of plywood fixed the wheel down.

Don't forget to drill a hole at every point that a cut changes direction, this stops excess strain placed on the plastiic and should prevent any splitting. Might not be needed but ...

Total cost excluding the wheel, about £9.60 because I had to buy the riveter, rivets and washers.

I suppose it is a bit Heath Robinson but it works and looks quite tidy even when looking into the empty tray.

I expect to be doing the same for my daughter maybe next weekend (she has a CT200 now) and will try to take some photos so I might be able to put some up on here.

[adnewton]

I just think for £ £140 you get an OEM condition & makes car easier to sell.