Giulia Cloverleaf

[stevet]

Check out the new Alfa announced today.

ISF size, different from the Germans and 0-60 in 3.9 :)

[Corrado]

Very interesting Steve and I like the fact it's not the default choice like most IS-F and probably Lexus owners. Did you see this a couple of days ago?

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/used-car-buying-guides/v8-saloons-price-nissan-qashqai-used-car-buying-guide

IS-F gets an honourable mention.

[stevet]

Not seen that article before. Nice one.

Alfa are very much like Lexus in that they make cars that are not the default choice and are prepared to be different even though it loses sales.

[Verbout]

Not seen that article before. Nice one.

Alfa are very much like Lexus in that they make cars that are not the default choice and are prepared to be different even though it loses sales.

And alfas are a pita. They walk the walk, but........

[sofasurfer]

The Giulia does look nice and I've always had a soft spot for Alfas ever since we had a 147. I want them to be great again but the whole build quality has to be better to compete with a Lexus.

[stevet]

I must be lucky, had four Alfa's and fifth on order, never had a single problem with any of them.

[Verbout]

I had a 159 for about six years, what a stunning car to look at, but, the suspension, especially the front was a constant nightmare, fix one thing and another goes.

If I wanted a gorgeous piece of art to adorn my drive I'd have a 159 or Brera, but not as a daily drive.

Drove me nuts.

[scudney]

Lol part of the Fix It Again Tomorrow(Fiat)family

[Stuno1]

4wd and rwd options. That's novel for the same spec car. Can't imagine it being cheap. No mention of price. Blistering performance though. Thought it was another Lexus form the rear view with the exhaust set up.

[toffee_pie]

is this bi turbo? what is the cc? gauging where the *** they get 500hp from.

[Corrado]

3.0 V6 bi-turbo which is apparently 'Ferrari derived'. Sounds very promising :)

[toffee_pie]

2 turbos in an Alfa...

good luck. I will wait a good few years and see how this pans out.

[Stuno1]

Reliability will always be over them as a issue in the eye of the average buyer. Be good if this car doesn't suffer from any common issues. Also, I have not seen any prices yet so be interesting to see where the price point ends up.

[stevet]

The usual reviews will be out soon and just as Lexus; Alfa will get; "good car but for the same price you could get a German one, so we can't recommend it"

My Giulietta QV is supposed to be arriving off the boat next week so I'll see what the quality is up to on modern Alfa's.

[toffee_pie]

I would expect this to cost well north of £40k

[Stuno1]

I would expect this to cost well north of £40k

Very far north of that. I'd be expecting 70k plus

[toffee_pie]

will have to be a very die hard alfa fan to buy them.

[stevet]

will have to be a very die hard alfa fan to buy them.

I'd buy one tomorrow. Spoke to dealer and they are expecting a £54k price

[toffee_pie]

you are putting a lot of faith in an Alfa, have you had them before?

[stevet]

you are putting a lot of faith in an Alfa, have you had them before?

Yes, had 4 and got my 5th on order. Never had a single problem with any of them. Only ever had problems with German cars.

[toffee_pie]

i am put off German cars due to reliability and turbos. I have no patience for turbos and the faults they can bring up, in this day and age do you still need to leave turbos cool down 5 minutes or so after finishing a drive.?

That is absolute pock c0ck! Absolutely could not put up with that nonsense, I love the low maintenance and reliability of the is250, I am eying up a ISF and keeping an eye on them.

[stevet]

Yes get an ISF they are ultra reliable. I did 60k miles in mine and had no bother at all. You wont regret it.

Looks like Lexus are starting to down the turbo route as well, so get them NA's while you can :)

[rayaans]

Lexus dont try to squeeze out every drop of power though. Im sure they could get 300 hp out of the turbo but it wouldnt be as reliable. Id like to see how this Alfa lasts as well, i'd imagine its more than £54k, close to £65k

[toffee_pie]

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201504282984571?channel=cars&postcode=so152sn&make=alfa_romeo&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&search-target=usedcars&radius=1500&model=8c&sort=default&page=2&logcode=p

Be good too if they stick a nav into it.....

[MNMJ]

I really like the look of it. The Sunday Times today estimates £60k and on sale Autumn 2016. I translate that as Spring 2017 and £65k